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Illinois police officer goes to wrong house, shoots family's dog
The Examiner ^ | September 20, 2012 | Penny Eims

Posted on 09/22/2012 9:42:59 AM PDT by Altariel

A dog, confined within his own yard, was shot and killed by an Eldorado, Ill. police officer who had mistakenly arrived to the wrong house to investigate a report of a stolen ladder.

According to Wednesday's publication of WSIL TV, the shooting took place on Sunday evening, when an officer arrived to the home of Jason Robershaw.

Robershaw claims that he heard a knock at his back door, followed by gun shots.

Those shots took the life of his 6-year-old German shepherd, "Smokey."

The grieving owner describes the horrific scene outside of his back door:

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dog; donutwatch; eldorado; germanshepherd; illinois; police; standingarmy
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To: Altariel

What ever happened to an officer coming to the front door.

Anyone sneaking around in my back yard is subject to getting shot.


41 posted on 09/22/2012 10:37:20 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: GBA

Say rather, the thinking goes “if one does it, and he is denounced and appropriately disciplined (fired & criminal charges), then the problem is with the officer, not the department. If one does it, and he is not named by his department nor does his department fire and imprison him for his crimes, then the department is to blame.”

When the department does not do so, the implication is that the entire department is littered with those who have repeatedly violated the Constitution, and they wish their crimes to remain hidden.


42 posted on 09/22/2012 10:38:43 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Sequoyah101
For many, dogs are loved and cared for as one of the family. Some dog owners do not have a family and all the love and devotion that would normally go to family goes to pets.

In cases like this, it is emotionally fairly close to having a cop show up and shoot your 6 year old kid. Just like for your children, the love a good dog is real and runs deep.

They are raised from helpless puppies that fall asleep in your arms. The connection is real and lasts their lifetime and yours. I still find it hard to keep down the lump in my throat when I remember my last boy.

43 posted on 09/22/2012 10:40:29 AM PDT by GBA
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To: kitkat

“WHY ARE THE POLICE SO OFTEN GOING TO THE WRONG ADDRESS.”

We live in a world where everybody is exceptional. Everybody gets a participation prize. No outstanding people are allowed. Mediocrity is the norm. Grades are inflated so everybody passes whether they can spell, work math problems, or read a map; or not. When these people get out in the world they are not careful or complete in their thinking and actions. Our education system has created a product where “substandard” performance is outstanding. Young people never double-check themselves as they’ve been told everything they do is wonderful.


44 posted on 09/22/2012 10:43:26 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

....and we live in a world where police can get around the Constitutional requirement for a warrant by asking their friendly neighborhood fellow government employee to look up the address for them.


45 posted on 09/22/2012 10:46:12 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
I agree. That is where the thinking goes if you process it for a while, but just off the cuff? I doubt most get beyond "They're all bad." followed by "I hate all cops."

That's why it MUST be stopped and publicly denounced. Otherwise, it's corruption is as corruption does and all trust and goodwill is lost, for all the reasons you cite.

46 posted on 09/22/2012 10:47:19 AM PDT by GBA
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; afraidfortherepublic; ...
WOOOF!

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47 posted on 09/22/2012 10:48:47 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Altariel

“Take a cop who has no regard for the Constitution”

My money is on a majority has never read it.


48 posted on 09/22/2012 11:04:58 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: GBA

“If cops were human and smart”

Now that is funny!


49 posted on 09/22/2012 11:07:45 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: Altariel

OK, I want to know once and for all. There’s got to be Freepers who are law enforcement or ex-law enforcement. You tell me, what’s the deal with the dog shootings in the last decade or so? Point blank, are officers being taught to kill dogs? Seems like in the last 20 years or so something has really changed.

It’s almost as if there’s an unwritten rule nowadays that says “If dog challenges you, kill it. If a dog barks at you, kill it. If a dog gets in your way, kill it. If you enter someones property and you see a dog you are free to pull out your service weapon and execute it on the spot. Don’t worry, we will cover for you. You have free reign to kill any dog you see. The worst you can expect is a few days of desk duty. We’ve got your back. Go for it.”

Is there some kind of attitude along these lines being conveyed in police departments across the country? At the very least that dog is someone’s property! You can’t just destroy someone’s property without a damn good reason. Or can you? It certainly seems that way.


50 posted on 09/22/2012 11:12:44 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: Cowgirl

What was their response?


51 posted on 09/22/2012 11:18:00 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Cowgirl

Those usually aren’t police or firemen. They are professional fund raisers that keep about 95 cents of every dollar you send them.

Just hang up.


52 posted on 09/22/2012 11:18:59 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Altariel

I am beginning to believe that many members of local police forces who are ex-military and supposedly ‘shoe-ins’ for a badge and a gun also bring the wrong mind-set to the job. It seems that they all too often forget they are dealing in large part with citizens of the United States and not third-world goat-humpers.


53 posted on 09/22/2012 11:19:48 AM PDT by patriotsblood
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To: Altariel

Up until as late as last year you could always count on one or two guys showing up on these kind of threads and defend the cops. I guess it’s gotten indefensible even for them.


54 posted on 09/22/2012 11:21:18 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Altariel

If someone shoots a police dog then what happens to them. And Yet when it is the other way around then it was an accident.

Bring the officer up on charges of Murder 1.


55 posted on 09/22/2012 11:24:57 AM PDT by Revel
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To: Gaffer

>>When the sh!t hits the fan, don’t count on the police. In fact, best advice is to stay away from them.. One only need to look back at the immediate after action by police there to see that Constitutionally guaranteed rights get violated.

I agree. When civil order begins to break down, the cops will be defending their paychecks and power, not the citizens.

The scary thing about this story (and many like it) is that the citizen was minding his own business when gunfire from an out of control cop erupts in the backyard. Now if gunfire erupts in my backyard, I might be tempted to go outside armed. Then, I get shot and the “official story” will be that a crazed civilian came at a cop with a gun. Same thing with wrong address no-knocks at 2am.


56 posted on 09/22/2012 11:28:37 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: GBA

I don’t know that I would shoot him, but I would certainly beat him senseless (or worse)... Mainly because I don’t know if I could get to my firearms before he left the yard. One of the pooper-scooper shovels would be very close at hand...


57 posted on 09/22/2012 11:38:21 AM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: Altariel

I cried when I read this...the cops are going after dogs all across this country and too fast on the draw.


58 posted on 09/22/2012 11:41:56 AM PDT by katiedidit1 (Constitutionalist..period)
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To: Altariel

The article is agonizingly vague. Was this the wrong address of the victim, or the wrong address of the suspected villain? It would be one mindset if you thought you were outside a den of thieves, but quite a different one if you thought you were outside the home of the innocent victim.

Or, the cop’s just a moron.


59 posted on 09/22/2012 11:43:29 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: patriotsblood

Disagree with that...I know lots of retired military and they love dogs. My husband, father, son, nephews are all military and nothing would infuraite them more than shooting a dog for such an unjustified reason.
Not that long ago there was a veteran that brought a dog home from Iraq or Afghanistan...it got out and was shot by mistake. Story after story of veterans and their dogs and the love and bond between them.
Many of today’s cops are punks.


60 posted on 09/22/2012 11:49:08 AM PDT by katiedidit1 (Constitutionalist..period)
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