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To: Cronos

>Do you have any reason you can give for this or is the focus on the 25% of the electorate that are Catholics, just damage control on your side?<

Cronos, all your foment in your numerous posts to me simply exhibits just that, damage control in the light of the fact that more than twice as many Catholics voted for Obama and are more liberal than evangelicals as a whole.

You keep on demanding an answer as to why (just) 20% of evangelicals voted for Obama, which presupposes we are claiming all evangelicals are true to their name, and the explanation is that the enemy sows tares among the wheat , or that they lack discernment (and who may engage in racism), and such were problems with the N.T. church.

And this question which is a red herring which diverts from issue, which is the fact that evangelicals have voted far more conservatively than Catholics for as long as they were compared, and did so again.

And your argument that they constituted a larger share of the voting block, and comparing numbers of voters is a specious attempt to impugn them, as it is percentages that matter, not how many millions out of the 20% of evangelicals versus the 50% of Catholics who voted liberal!

And the problem is that NO religious group voted as conservatively as evangelicals. And they did so more in this election than even Mormons (if very close).

And white evangelical support for Obama dropped nationally by 6 percentage points since 2008. (http://blogs.denverpost.com/hark/2012/11/07/evangelicals-catholics-nones-parsing-god-vote/1401/?doing_wp_cron=1352465721.4368638992309570312500)

Thus your incessant demand for an answer as to why just 20% of evangelicals voted for Obama, which given answer is obvious, is an irrelevant diversion, as the issue was and remains that those who Rome treats as members in life and in death, even Ted Kennedy types, are far more liberal overall than evangelicals. Your are basically focusing on a gnat and swallowing a camel.

That said, the title “evangelical” is increasingly being used by those who deny the movements basic historical tents, just as liberal RCs do (and the more literally they see the Bible, as evangelicals the more conservative they are).


94 posted on 11/09/2012 5:32:20 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

You keep on demanding an answer as to why some Catholics voted for Obama, which presupposes we are claiming all Catholics are true to their name, and the explanation is that the enemy sows tares among the wheat , or that they lack discernment (and who may engage in racism), and such were problems with the N.T. church.


96 posted on 11/09/2012 5:38:20 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: daniel1212
You keep on demanding an answer as to why some Catholics voted for Obama, which presupposes we are claiming all Catholics are true to their name, and the explanation is that the enemy sows tares among the wheat , or that they lack discernment (and who may engage in racism), and such were problems with the N.T. church.

Why did 9 million odd evangelicals and 21 million Protestants/Other Christians vote for Obama?

If your post claims that some of your folks are more conservative, then why this large number voting for Obama?

Instead of focusing on that, your posts are playing diversion

20% voting for Obama is still not good enough -- and there is no historical baggage to vote for the Dems.

do you have an explanation for why 9 million evangelicals voted O?

97 posted on 11/09/2012 5:41:11 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: daniel1212
and the more literally they see the Bible, as evangelicals the more conservative they are

you have any facts for this statement?

And quite frankly, 9 million evangelicals voting for Obama compared to 14 million is not a gnat to a camel comparison. Neither number is good, but the number of evangelicals voting for 0 is not miniscule...

in fact, you said yourself that And white evangelical support for Obama dropped nationally by 6 percentage points since 2008. -- about the same as white Catholic support -- and you also point out that more Hispanic evangelicals voted for Obama than for Romney -- so the voting pattern is highly ethnically charged.

98 posted on 11/09/2012 5:54:37 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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