you have any facts for this statement?
And quite frankly, 9 million evangelicals voting for Obama compared to 14 million is not a gnat to a camel comparison. Neither number is good, but the number of evangelicals voting for 0 is not miniscule...
in fact, you said yourself that And white evangelical support for Obama dropped nationally by 6 percentage points since 2008. -- about the same as white Catholic support -- and you also point out that more Hispanic evangelicals voted for Obama than for Romney -- so the voting pattern is highly ethnically charged.
First,many of the evangelicals you quote are black. It would be foolish to think they will not vote Obama if he had a tail and horns. You are still making excuses for the Catholic numbers. We have trouble in our midst and pointing to others won't fix anything. I've done it too and it gets the problem no where. My "I know you are, but what am I?", comment dealt with just this point. Prots could worship goats and that wouldn't change the fact that half of Catholics voted for Obama. My burden is how to get the Church's attention. I think their heads are so far in the sand they can't breath anymore.
I think it's a shame Jews vote for people who hate Israel, but that's none of my business. Prots vote the way they vote, but I have no say. My problem seems to be I have no say in the Catholic faith. Chasing evangelicals around doesn't fix anything in the Catholic church. What are we to do about the 50% that scoff at our own faith?
I say something should happen to them but the church fathers seem to disagree. If we are taught we are the true faith, what are we to make of the confusion in the church? So far it seems the right answer is to ignore and deny. It may make you feel good to point at others, but it fixed NOTHING in our church. Evangelizing evangelicals is fine, but what are you going to tell them if our church is splitting down the middle?
I have been watching Gateway church sermons in Dallas Tex over the internet for the last few weeks. He actually made statement from the pulpit on how to vote. He gave the scriptures to back it up and told them if they knew the right thing and did the wrong thing, that is sin. Are you going to follow God or your wants? Texas went something like 57% for Romney. I don't know about you, but I hear almost nothing that could be construed as voting advice from the church. The latest letter about religious liberty was about it. Now I doubt Osteen in Houston said a word because he wouldn't want to offend any of his flock. Which church is more like what is happening in the Catholic church? I fear it is more like the Osteen church. The Word of God is like a sword that divides. Ear tickling is not what we should be striving for.
PS. on #99 and the “numbers”. On a political note and not a Spiritual note, If the number had been 45% for Obama instead of 50%, would Romney have won? Truly, I’m worried about the Spiritual aspect of the numbers in the church, but what good is it to have a billion Catholics if they vote the wrong way? All over the world, Catholics seem to cling to socialism and communists. Could Chavez stay in power if the church came out against him? He says he’s Catholic and the people line up at the counter to get their free stuff and vote him back in. A word, just a word, from the pope could make a huge difference in the world if he would just be a little more confrontational. Many dictatorships would fail if the people turned against them, but as long as the church teaches government dependence, the people will think the more socialist the government, the more godly they are. Some are so stupid, you have to spell it out for them in no uncertain terms. The church could do that for them, but IMHO, the church is sometimes the PROBLEM. I remember the Irish were willing to die for a country of their own, but what kind of country would it have been? Just another socialist Eurotrash hellhole probably because the church doesn’t teach liberty. It teaches the rich are going to hell and the government needs to play God. My reading of Scripture shows Jesus telling His followers THEY were to help the poor, not rely on Caesar. Apparently that is not being taught in South and Central America and most of Africa and I doubt much of America.
>and the more literally they see the Bible, as evangelicals the more conservative they are<
>>you have any facts for this statement?<<
Of course ^ points to previous source:
47.8% of the Evangelicals and 11.8% of Catholics affirm the Bible is Literally true. 6.5% of the former and 19.8% of the latter see it as an ancient book of history and legends. (American Piety in the 21st Century, Baylor Institute for Studies of Religion http://www.baylor.edu/content/services/document.php/33304.pdf)
Evangelical Protestants are the most politically conservative Christian tradition. Within each tradition, those with literal views of the Bible are more politically conservative than is their tradition overall. Catholics that are Biblical literalists (11.8%) hold more conservative political views than the Catholic population in general does. The Biblical literalist Catholic is as politically conservative as the Biblical literalist who is Evangelical (47.8%) or Mainline Protestant. ^
81% of Pentecostal/Foursquare believers strongly agree that the Bible is totally accurate in all that it teaches , followed by 77% of Assemblies of God believers, and ending with 26% of Catholics and 22% of Episcopalians. ( http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/5-barna-update/53)
Related:
25% of Evangelical Christians and 20% of other Protestants and 7% of Catholics said the read the Bible on a daily basis. 44% of Catholics said they rarely or never read the Bible, along with only 7% of Evangelical Christians and 13% of other Protestants. (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/december_2008/catholics_protestants_practice_faith_in_different_ways)
68% of Evangelical Christians attend a regular Bible Study or participate in some other small-group activity. 47% of other Protestants take part in small groups related to their faith, along with 24% of Catholics. ^
72% of Catholics said that the will of the American people should have more influence than the Bible on US law, as compared to 63% of the general public. Pew Research Center, “Pragmatic Americans Liberal and Conservative on Social Issues,” August 3, 2006, (http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/283.pdf).
55% of evangelical converts from Catholicism cited dissatisfaction with Catholic teachings about the Bible was a reason for leaving Catholicism, with 46% saying the Catholic Church did not view the Bible literally enough. (Pew forum, Faith in Flux (April 27, 2009) http://pewforum.org/uploadedfiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/fullreport.pdf)
More: http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html