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Horrible Showbiz Career Decisions (McLean Stevenson Effect)
Self | November 25, 2012 | PJ-Comix

Posted on 11/25/2012 7:06:22 AM PST by PJ-Comix

People in the entertainment business sometimes make horrible career decisions. This is what is known as the "McLean Stevenson Effect." Named after actor McLean Stevenson who played the part of Henry Blake in the hit TV series "M*A*S*H." Stevenson was unhappy with being part of an ensemble so after about 3 seasons left the show to become the lead in the "McLean Stevenson Show" which promptly flopped. His career never recovered.

Another victim of the McLean Stevenson effect was Shelly Long who was in the hit series "Cheers." She left after 5 seasons to become a movie actress but pretty much flopped in that endeavor.

Finally there was Jeff Conaway who starred in my own favorite TV series "Taxi." After 3 seasons he left the show with a one-way ticket to obscurity.

Who else made poor showbiz career decisions to become victims of the "McLean Stevenson Effect."


TOPICS: Humor; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: hollywood; mcleanstevenson
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Everything I’ve ever heard or read suggests that Long’s castmates on Cheers couldn’t stand her (very snotty attitude) and were happy to see her go. (In comparison, they absolutely loved Kirstie Alley.)


61 posted on 11/25/2012 8:05:12 AM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: PJ-Comix

Mary Wells leaving Motown at the height of her success.


62 posted on 11/25/2012 8:05:20 AM PST by smalltownslick
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To: married21
Also, Don Adams was sort of stuck after Get Smart because he was typecast.

He had a good run as Tennessee Tuxedo, or maybe that was before Get Smart

63 posted on 11/25/2012 8:05:33 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: married21
"typecast"

There's two way of looking at that. He became a huge, wealthy star from "Get Smart." His tv experience previous to "Get Smart" was as a house dick on a quickly canceled sitcom "The Bill Dana Show." Would he rather have labored in obscurity or become one of tv's most famous comedians?

I don't know if Adams bemoaned his fate, but any actor who actually becomes famous through the efforts of just one show should be happy. There's tons more unemployed or underemployed actors. You can make money strumming a guitar on a streetcorner, but nobody wants to hear some actor do scenes from Hamlet while they're walking around the shopping district.

64 posted on 11/25/2012 8:06:22 AM PST by driftless2
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To: PJ-Comix
"Gunsmoke"

As I got older I began to wonder how many bad guys Marshall Dillon and the rest of the tv six-gun heroes dispatched in their years on the tube. Certainly Dillon must lead the pack. The show ran 20 years, and it seemed he sent at least one or more desperadoes to Boot Hill every episode.

65 posted on 11/25/2012 8:10:08 AM PST by driftless2
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To: PJ-Comix

Arnold Schwarznegger. From Terminator to Governor of a terminally ill state


66 posted on 11/25/2012 8:10:57 AM PST by chuckee
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To: PJ-Comix

Burt Reynolds, turning down the Star Wars part of Han Solo offered by George Lucas comes to mind.


67 posted on 11/25/2012 8:13:23 AM PST by TADSLOS (LOSING BIG- The GOP legacy.)
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To: Lx

I spotted Chase as being a gigantic anal orifice after I first saw him on SNL. I was mighty glad when he was replaced by Bill Murray who actually has comedic talent.


68 posted on 11/25/2012 8:13:23 AM PST by driftless2
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To: PJ-Comix

Wasn’t it Jonathan Taylor Thomas from Tool Time that also took bad advice from his agent/handlers and promptly disappeared into obscurity?


69 posted on 11/25/2012 8:13:41 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Venturer

I believe James Arness got the Gunsmoke job on the recommendation of John Wayne, who turned the job down. Good move for both.


70 posted on 11/25/2012 8:13:54 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Venturer; PJ-Comix
The gist of the story was that Matt was making it with Miss Kitty, The Madam. They never really showed it though, it started as a family show.

I thought there was a made for TV movie that had him searching for a kidnapped illegitimate daughter. Or am I remembering wrong?

Just checked Wiki: Movie number two, Gunsmoke: The Last Apache (1990), had Learned reprising the role of "Mike Yardner" to divulge that Matt sired her daughter, who is now a young woman named Beth.

71 posted on 11/25/2012 8:15:29 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: rbg81
Grammer wasn't the first choice for Frasier. It was John Lithgow but he wasn't available. Also the role of Carla was meant for 60s/70s singer Janis Ian but she wanted to stick with music instead of acting.

http://splitsider.com/2012/03/the-lost-roles-of-cheers/

72 posted on 11/25/2012 8:16:05 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Venturer

Yeah, and that’s why Arness could do whatever he wanted (in terms of acting) after “Gunsmoke” left the air. If you watch the early, 30-minute, black-and-white episodes of Gunsmoke, you’ll note that the last three or four years of shows in that format were produced by the “Arness Production Company.”

To keep their star happy, CBS set him up as the producer, then when the show expanded to a one-hour format, the network bought him out and made him a multi-millionaire in the process. And Gunsmoke ran for another 14 seasons after Arness folded his production company, and he took home a rather healthy paycheck each week.

There is potential gold in being typecast.


73 posted on 11/25/2012 8:16:47 AM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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To: PJ-Comix
Regardless, McLean Stevenson's TV work on MASH is among the best every done, or that ever will be. The world needs more Henry Blakes.
74 posted on 11/25/2012 8:17:29 AM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: US Navy Vet

I think that can be true, if you manage your money right.

I remember reading an interview with Flip Wilson, years after his one sucessful show went off the air, decades after, actually.

He stated that he never did have to earn money again, because he hired smart people, listened to them and was very conservative. He said: I never touched one penny of the principal.

But of course most people, in all walks of life and myself included aren’t like that.


75 posted on 11/25/2012 8:18:33 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
How about Shannen Doherty?

I never watched that show but isn't she now doing commercials for some on-line college? Now scraping the bottom of the barrel to make ends meet.

76 posted on 11/25/2012 8:20:34 AM PST by OldMissileer
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To: verga

Yeah I saw that one, never did figure where the daughter came from.


77 posted on 11/25/2012 8:21:35 AM PST by Venturer
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To: PJ-Comix

One note about the Long Branch: if you watch the early black-and-white episodes, there is no doubt that Miss Kitty’s place is a brothel first, and a watering hole second. In numerous shots, you’ll see cowboys and bar girls go up the stairs, while others are descending the staircase, after a little “paid” entertainment. The producers prided themselves on the realism of Gunsmoke and decided to keep the obvious references to prostitution in the scenes at the Long Branch, certain the network censors would demand their deletion.

The censors never said a word. And this was in an era when “married” couples on TV couldn’t share the same bed.


78 posted on 11/25/2012 8:23:36 AM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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To: verga

“Seemed to have a prtetty good run in “Numb3rs”

Yes, that was a great show, and Freepers should like it. FBI guy Morrow chasing bad guys, with his math genius brother’s help and Judd Hirsch as the dad, plus various supporting actors throughout, what’s not to like.

Folks should look for it in re-runs, it’s an interesting show with good values I would say.


79 posted on 11/25/2012 8:25:28 AM PST by jocon307
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To: OrioleFan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T646gNcRiMs

Here is that introduction/

Arness was in the movie Hondo with Wayne.


80 posted on 11/25/2012 8:25:51 AM PST by Venturer
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