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1 posted on 12/19/2012 9:16:38 AM PST by pabianice
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“I realize that different parts of the country feel different about guns...”


2 posted on 12/19/2012 9:17:36 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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On fiscal cliff: “Boehner has already admitted that tax rates need to go up. On cuts, we need to make sure they are ‘responsible’ and ‘balanced.’ Voters are looking for some compromise...


3 posted on 12/19/2012 9:19:04 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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Last time there was a Civil War in this country, 600,000 people died.

/johnny

4 posted on 12/19/2012 9:19:04 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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When do we march?


5 posted on 12/19/2012 9:20:11 AM PST by baddog 219
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“The vast majority of responsible gun owners support a ban on assault rifles and large capacity magazines...”

Want to put that to a vote amongst “The vast majority of responsible gun owners...”?


6 posted on 12/19/2012 9:21:13 AM PST by moovova
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“I don’t want to be blocked by idealogical positions that don’t make sense... I want to get this done but the Republicans need to make some additional changes in their position... I won’t allow a tax increase for millions of working families... this was debated during the campaign (and I won)... “


8 posted on 12/19/2012 9:21:35 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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"The vast majority of responsible gun owners support a ban on assault rifles and large capacity magazines..."

And he knows this how? Oh yeah, say a lie enough times to the sheeple and it becomes the truth.

Wrong solution, wrong problemo, Oblamo.

9 posted on 12/19/2012 9:21:36 AM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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Bud’s is sold out, as well as the other shops I frequent (at least of anything I’d be interested in). Unintended consequences.


10 posted on 12/19/2012 9:22:56 AM PST by LibWhacker
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“The fiscal package that I’ve put forward is a real compromise by any definition, with real, tough spending cuts... the idea that the Speaker would give big tax breaks to people making $500K, $600K, $700K while punishing the middle class just defies logic... there is no explanation for that... we just need to get this done for the middle class that has had some wrenching times... we need common sense and this is a good test for it...”


12 posted on 12/19/2012 9:24:22 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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Well, there was some good news!

Joe Bidden is leading the charge!


13 posted on 12/19/2012 9:25:12 AM PST by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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He mentioned a couple of areas, manly in west and south. that this country has had gun violence in the past few days but omitted any mention of the center of violence - CHICAGO!


14 posted on 12/19/2012 9:25:12 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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"...The vast majority of responsible gun owners support a ban on assault rifles and large capacity magazines..."


15 posted on 12/19/2012 9:25:34 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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“You LIE!!” - Rep. Joe Wilson (my congressguy)


18 posted on 12/19/2012 9:26:33 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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19 posted on 12/19/2012 9:27:57 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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There are no gun owners who support a ban on so-called Assault weapons.

None.


20 posted on 12/19/2012 9:28:31 AM PST by buffaloguy
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“My Republican friends are just irresponsible... they keep finding ways to ruin a deal... they are for the rich... they don’t care about results...”


22 posted on 12/19/2012 9:28:39 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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Not one press question about guns.


24 posted on 12/19/2012 9:30:48 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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"I will use all the powers of my office to do what needs to be done to reduce gun violence..."

Godfather II: "Don't you know that I would use all of my power to prevent something like that from happening?"

Something sounds eerily familiar here.

25 posted on 12/19/2012 9:32:51 AM PST by Kenny (<p)
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A few days after the tragic Sandy Hook school murders, a young Marine in fatigues stationed himself at the front entrance of the Nashville elementary school his two children attend. Another parent heard him admit to a reporter that he was unarmed. The other parent commented that, even though the young Marine standing guard was not armed, it made him “feel better” to know he was there.

It’s often been observed that “perception is more important than reality”. The observation is often correct. It is never MORE CORRECT than for those we’ve come to call “liberals”. I prefer “statist” but “liberal” has morphed from its classic meaning to the other end of the spectrum so I’ll stay with it.

Since these folks operate almost entirely on EMOTION and FEELING, REALITY seldom allows FACTS to intrude upon the delusional worldview they have constructed and the comfort that provides them. It is that illogical, irrational and delusional mindset that prompts many of them to continue to quest after a Utopian society. The thought that such a society can and will never be achieved in a fallen world populated with failed sinners never penetrates whatever remains of their cognitive consciousness. It’s a DANGEROUS WORLD and, as the liberals continue to “define deviancy down”, it becomes more dangerous daily.

There is another, far more sinister, level of the “liberal” call for gun control.

It was Mencken who offered that “The urge to save humanity is most often a false front for the URGE TO RULE.” He clearly had been a student of the liberal politicians of his day. Were he alive today and able to observe the likes of Chuck Schumer, Diane Feinstein, Obama and the rest, he’d almost certainly have used far stronger language to frame his sage observation.

To conclude, dozens of studies reveal the FACTS concerning gun control. Those FACTS are that where firearms are widely and READILY available to law-abiding citizens, CRIME GOES DOWN! The liberals who willfully ignore the FACTUAL EVIDENCE and continue to call for gun control (i.e. the DISARMING of DECENT CITIZENS, thereby denying them the ability to exercise their God-given right to self-defense) are those about whom Mencken wrote: Their goal is NOT about preserving life. It is about the hell-bent pursuit of the impossible to achieve Utopian world where all are equal but some (that’d be THEM) are MORE equal than others (that’d be US).

There are many PRO-RTKABA videos on You Tube that your often busy lives don’t allow you to find on your own. Search there for “Gun Control”, watch them – and, more importantly – SHARE THEM with the folks in your orbit.

We’re in a fight. And losing will ultimately cost us much more than our right to our guns.

28 posted on 12/19/2012 9:45:02 AM PST by Dick Bachert (An ARMED society is a POLITE society!)
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BE CAREFUL! Back in 1968, the murder of Bobby Kennedy was an anti-gunner’s wet dream come true.

Bobby Kennedy was killed with a small American made .22 revolver, an Iver Johnson Cadet.

John Kennedy was killed in 1963 with a 5 shot bolt action military surplus rifle. Italian Carcano.

When the 1968 gun control act passed,(due to the passing out of huge amounts of cash to the states for “crime control”), it banned what the antis have been dreaming of for years.

A ban on 5 shot bolt action army surplus rifles.
A ban on small foreign pistols and revolvers.
A ban on military equipment. A gun shop in Tulsa was raided because they imported flintlock flints.

All of this did not ban the pistol used to kill Bobby, and it did nothing to ban foreign police surplus rifles which were the same as military rifles, just not issued to the army.

Congressmen from CT, Mass and NY had wanted a ban on military surplus to protect their local industries like COLT, S&W, Savage and Winchester.

Why should an American buy a $12.00 army rifle to hunt with when they should be buying a high dollar American made hunting rifle!

And why should they be buying a military Army surplus Enfield or Webley pistol when they should be buying a high dollar US made handgun?

The devil is in the details so be real careful with this as the antis today are far worse than the antis of the 1960s.


32 posted on 12/19/2012 10:05:13 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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