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1 posted on 12/19/2012 10:07:47 AM PST by klimeckg
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Or is it people refusing to take their medications that is the real problem. Jared Lochner, the Aurora theater shooter, and Adam Lanza all seem to have had psychiatric medications prescribed but were NOT taking them at the time of the shooting.


2 posted on 12/19/2012 10:11:37 AM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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Yes. Here’s the connection. By definition, a mass shooter/murderer is psychotic. Most psychotics are either on meds or have been on them.
So you can skip the meds as being causal and go straight to the psychosis.

Next case.


3 posted on 12/19/2012 10:12:59 AM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great; until it happens to YOU.)
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If they are on Meds; that's the problem.
If they are not on Meds; that's the problem.
What about the person themselves?
Are they the problem? -tom
5 posted on 12/19/2012 10:20:03 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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“The sword does not kill. It is a tool in the killer’s hands.-Seneca the Younger 2000 years ago.


6 posted on 12/19/2012 10:20:25 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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We could nearly eliminate the use of psych meds if we re-established the committed 2 parent home, and those parents took upon themselves the role of providing love, discipline, instruction, structure, wisdom, and sound diet and exercise in the home.

Meds are plan B because we refuse to do plan A. It won’t work.


7 posted on 12/19/2012 10:23:55 AM PST by lurk
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Psychiatric Medication or is the link crazy people?


8 posted on 12/19/2012 10:26:52 AM PST by dila813
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Leave it to natural news to not be able to see the forest for the trees. It takes a mentally unbalanced person to commit such an act. Why the surprise that the mentally compromised are being treated? Never mind nn’s typical cart before the horse approach


10 posted on 12/19/2012 10:31:35 AM PST by Melas (u)
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SSRI mass murder

12 posted on 12/19/2012 10:45:08 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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This is hard to say. Is is the drugs “making” someone be a mass murderer? Or are the drugs in the system just evidence that he’s been diagnosed as being mental and has been prescribed some drugs, and taken them.

It is impossible, I think, to prove cause.

To the larger point, I read yesterday that if we had senile dementia patients wandering the streets the way we have paranoid schizophrenics wandering the streets, we’d be horrified. Why is this ok?

There needs to be some sort of system - I know, systems are not always a good thing - to get paranoid schizophrenics committed. There must be safeguards so that the system is not abused and people aren’t committed for stupid reasons. Some sort of jury or ombudsman or regular review or something. But having these folks who listen to voices telling them to kill or hallucinating violent scenes wander freely among is is NOT WORKING.


13 posted on 12/19/2012 10:51:47 AM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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Problem solved in 1968.

“Today we begin to disarm the criminal and the careless and the insane. All of our people who are deeply concerned in this country about law and order should hail this day.- Lyndon Johnson when he signed the 1968 GCA into law.


14 posted on 12/19/2012 10:52:00 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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YES! The cause is the individual.. so far mostly males.

There is evidence that prescribed mind altering medicines exasperate the problem in some cases because of unwanted reactions.. like it or not.. we need to look at the evidence.

Like it or not: there could be unwanted reaction to prescribed mind altering medicines. The unwanted reaction to prescribed mind altering medicines really could include

"Take two now and cull a crowd in the morning . . . ."

There is little chance that it will happen but it has happened to some "crowds."

I am not qualified to explain and defend the evidence any more than I can explain weather.. I have what are called opinions and I would never deny anyone access to their medicines.

16 posted on 12/19/2012 11:05:27 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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