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"Parson Brown," "married" deleted from "Winter Wonderland" song
Fox Saturday Morning | 12/23/12

Posted on 12/22/2012 7:09:10 AM PST by pabianice

Was listening to Fox in the background. A local NYC kids' choir just sang "Winter Wonderland." You know, "In the meadow we will build a snow man, we'll pretend that he is Parson Brown, he'll say 'are you married?' we'll say, 'no, man', but you can do the job when you're in town..."

Except, the new words are, "we'll pretend that he's a circus clown..." and subsequent lyrics delete all reference to religion.

I find this repellant and just one more move toward making any reference to religion unacceptable. As a Jew I'm not up on Christmas songs, but is this what's being allowed to happen to our kids?


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1 posted on 12/22/2012 7:09:18 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

“a circus clown” ???

In the words of Charlie Brown : Good Grief!


2 posted on 12/22/2012 7:11:14 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: pabianice
No need to get your knickers in a knot, that is just a later verse, as here are the complete lyrics:

WALKING IN A WINTER WONDERLAND
Sleigh bells ring, are you listening,
In the lane, snow is glistening
A beautiful sight,
We're happy tonight.
Walking in a winter wonderland.

Gone away is the bluebird,
Here to stay is a new bird
He sings a love song,
As we go along,
Walking in a winter wonderland.

In the meadow we can build a snowman,
Then pretend that he is Parson Brown
He'll say: Are you married?
We'll say: No man,
But you can do the job
When you're in town.

Later on, we'll conspire,
As we dream by the fire
To face unafraid,
The plans that we've made,
Walking in a winter wonderland.

In the meadow we can build a snowman,
And pretend that he's a circus clown
We'll have lots of fun with mister snowman,
Until the other kids knock him down.

When it snows, ain't it thrilling,
Though your nose gets a chilling
We'll frolic and play, the Eskimo way,
Walking in a winter wonderland.

3 posted on 12/22/2012 7:15:20 AM PST by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: pabianice

I noticed that too.


4 posted on 12/22/2012 7:15:20 AM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: pabianice

I’ve noticed this too although the change from Parson Brown to circus clown isn’t new. I remember hearing this version with the alternate lyrics many years back. However, the circus clown version of the song is getting more prevalent.


5 posted on 12/22/2012 7:15:36 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: nuconvert

There have always been 2 verses for the last 50 years that I can remember.First refers to parson brown and getting married,second verse refers to circus clown and having fun with mr snowman untill the other kiddies knock him down.Lighten up both verses have always been there.


6 posted on 12/22/2012 7:15:49 AM PST by Craftmore
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To: pabianice

The reference to “circus clown” is supposed to be in a later verse about a snowman...did they just leave out two verses?


7 posted on 12/22/2012 7:15:49 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: pabianice

Step by step, day by day, the leftist/muslim alliance strip us of our Judeo-Christian heritage, until you wake up one morning and say “what happened”? Well, it’s happening, slowly but surely, and the real push will come when they try to destroy the 2nd amendment (underway) and then where do you go? Wake up, America, before it’s too late. Merry Christmas and a belated Happy Chanukah to our Jewish posters.


8 posted on 12/22/2012 7:15:58 AM PST by john drake
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To: pabianice

If Jews and Christians may not act to worship in the public square, then Judeo-Christian ethos - caring for a fellow man - has no place in policy making - or guilt tripping Jewish and Christian citizens to part with their wealth.


9 posted on 12/22/2012 7:17:31 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: pabianice

That’s been an alternate verse as long as I can remember. It’s not a new thing.

It just looks strange to hear little kids at a Christmas concert singing to Parson Brown about how soon he can marry them.


10 posted on 12/22/2012 7:17:43 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: pabianice

I just got a Christmas card that said: “Happy Winter!”


11 posted on 12/22/2012 7:20:15 AM PST by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: pabianice

See, Johnny Mathis sang it that way the year I was born. Go to about 2:27.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldV1VKSWPu8


12 posted on 12/22/2012 7:22:33 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart

Thank God, I’ve never heard the alternate lyrics - which I reject outright. If it’s good enough for Mel Torme, it’s good enough for me.

Fie on this politically correct world!


13 posted on 12/22/2012 7:22:59 AM PST by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: hellinahandcart

Mathis sings about Parson Brown in that clip


14 posted on 12/22/2012 7:25:12 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: miss marmelstein
I just got a Christmas card that said: “Happy Winter!”

I got a Winter card that said "Merry Christmas!" What's going on in this country?!!!!!!

15 posted on 12/22/2012 7:25:17 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Rebel_Ace

I can’t think of how many hundreds of times I heard that song and never actually listened to what they were saying about the snowman.


16 posted on 12/22/2012 7:25:50 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: pabianice

Don’t worry. Once gay marriage is forced on all the churches, the original lyrics will come back.


17 posted on 12/22/2012 7:26:36 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: pabianice

In my public elementary school in the early 70s, we sang all of the Christmas songs including the religious ones. We ALSO sang a couple of explicitly Hanukkah songs. The Jewish kids sang ours and we sang theirs, and if anybody opted out, no big deal. (some of us mouthed EVERYTHING to get out of singing). Even outside of Christmas, we sung religious songs of obvious historical significance. As a Catholic, I found the words of Chester particularly parochial . “New England’s God forever reigns” sounds more like a collegiate fight song than a true hymn. As long as there is no chance of confusion, or saying anything that my faith would find blasphemous, no prob. No one thought I was Jewish because I sang “Tis the week of Hanukkah”.


18 posted on 12/22/2012 7:26:45 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: Mr. Know It All

...but I did want to chime in and say that that lyric change was retarded.


19 posted on 12/22/2012 7:26:52 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: pabianice

Until groups go there and throw condoms at those responsible we have no hope. This is said in all seriousness because that is how they achieved this “revolution”. You are not going to stop them by being offended. If you don’t want to take it back, kiss it goodbye.


20 posted on 12/22/2012 7:28:33 AM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: pabianice
When you have a shotgun, who needs a chainsaw
21 posted on 12/22/2012 7:28:33 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: pabianice

That’s actually in the second refrain or second verse or whatever it is........


22 posted on 12/22/2012 7:28:53 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: nuconvert

Only cuz azz clown didn’t rhyme


23 posted on 12/22/2012 7:31:39 AM PST by bigbob
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To: pabianice

Weird.


24 posted on 12/22/2012 7:34:07 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Mr. Know It All

I got a Chrhistmas card from my State Senator with a hand written note that says “Wow! We are in a lot of trouble...”

You can imagine how that makes me feel. :(


25 posted on 12/22/2012 7:35:14 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: pabianice

Hubby sings the ‘Marv Albert’ version.

Instead of ‘Walking in a Winter Wonderland’ the verse is ‘Walking ‘round in women’s underwear...’

We were at BJs Wholesale club and he was absentmindedly singing this and this poor woman happened to hear him, spun around and stared at him with her mouth completely agape.

I slipped away, hid behind the clothes racks and laughed with my hand over my mouth. I had to let him own that.


26 posted on 12/22/2012 7:38:21 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: bigbob
I prefer the traditional words myself, but I also have a guilty fondness for the alternate song Mark Levin plays:

Walking Around In Women's Underwear
Bob Rivers

"Lacey things, the wife is missing.
Didn't ask, for her permission
I'm wearing her clothes,
her silk panty hose.
Walking around in women's underwear.

In the store, there's a teddy.
With little straps, like spagetti.
It holds me so tight,
like handcuffs at night.
Walking around in womens underwear

In the office there's a guy named Melvin.
He pretends that I am Murphy Brown.
He'll say "Are you ready?"
I'll say, "Woah man! Lets wait untill the wife is out of town."
Later on, if you wanna,
We can dress, like Madonna.
Put on some eye shade, and join the parade.
Walking around in women's underwear.

Lacey things, missing.
Didn't ask, permission.
Wearing her clothes, silk panty hose.
Walking around in women's underwear.
Walking around in women's underwear.
Walking around in women's underwear......"
27 posted on 12/22/2012 7:39:54 AM PST by Nepeta
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To: pabianice; Rebel_Ace; Craftmore; hellinahandcart; Hot Tabasco

Actually, the circus clown version is NOT in the original 1934 song.

It’s a 1950’s rewrite which tones it down for younger children.

From Wiki:

The bridge of the song contains the following lyrics:

“In the meadow we can build a snowman,
then pretend that he is Parson Brown.
He’ll say ‘Are You Married?’ We’ll say ‘No man,
but you can do the job while you’re in town!’”

In the period when this song was written, parsons (now known as Protestant ministers) often traveled among small rural towns to perform wedding ceremonies for denominational followers who did not have a local minister of their own faith.

The original bridge, about a couple who make a spur-of-the-moment decision to get married, was supposedly considered inappropriate for children. A 1953 version of the sheet music contains the following replacement bridge

In the meadow we can build a snowman,
and pretend that he’s a circus clown.
We’ll have lots of fun with Mister Snowman,
until the other kiddies knock ‘im down!
When it snows, ain’t it thrillin’?
Tho’ your nose, gets a chillin’
We’ll frolic and play, the Eskimo way,
Walkin’ in a Winter Wonderland.


28 posted on 12/22/2012 7:40:30 AM PST by DoctorBulldog (Obama sucks. End of story.)
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To: Nepeta

LOL! Too funny!

Thanks for sharing!

Cheers!


29 posted on 12/22/2012 7:42:13 AM PST by DoctorBulldog (Obama sucks. End of story.)
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To: Tammy8

“Circus clown” gives me the creeps. I think of that killer Wayne something Gacy!


30 posted on 12/22/2012 7:47:13 AM PST by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

So far in Utah, they still sing/play Christmas songs, even religious ones! My 11 year old granddaughter’s been learning to play the Viola this year, she was in the Christmas concert and the group from her school did play at least one religious-themed song: “God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen”, and a couple others. The other students from a another school who were more advanced, played other songs, such as: “Silent Night”, “We Three Kings From Orient Are” and “Alleluia Chorus”! We in Utah have been generally more fortunate in that we were founded by a religious group, (we have others besides LDS, of course) so we haven’t had the problems other states have had, yet! (I do say, “yet”)However, that could change in future!(heaven forbid) Massachusetts was also founded that way, as was Maryland, and look what happened to them! (grimace..)


31 posted on 12/22/2012 7:48:06 AM PST by dsutah
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To: pabianice
Incidentally, I included the words Parson Brown when I recorded ""Winter Wonderland." The phrase circus clown is supposed to occur in the second verse -- not the first!
32 posted on 12/22/2012 7:49:41 AM PST by Stepan12
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To: ReformationFan

Worry not—soon—all too soon—we will need all of our religions! Wait, it will not be long before America is under attack—we will have few friends and many enemies—our back to the wall in ways worse than 1942. American cities burning, the newspapers filled with the names of the dead—thousands lost each day. Then, all of this Progressive propaganda and Gay Agenda will be seen as what it is—worthless and silly. The Churches will be filled—racism will be set aside and from the cauldron will be forged a new and better America. It will be a war we may not win this time—and from it a new world will come.


33 posted on 12/22/2012 7:50:01 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: pabianice

Went to Hallmark to get a small box of Christmas cards yesterday. Only about 10% had any religious significance, and the truly religious ones were all for Hispanics. It’s very sad. The corporate lockstep with Leftist agendas is really picking up steam in recent years.

Yes, I spoke my mind, and may do so with corporate headquarters as well, as I often have before, but stopping this rising tide seems a Quixotic endeavor.


34 posted on 12/22/2012 7:55:21 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: dsutah

I’ll have to make a correction in the name of one song. That one is to change from “Alleluia Chorus” to “Halleluia Chorus”. Hopefully, that one is more correct!


35 posted on 12/22/2012 7:55:48 AM PST by dsutah
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To: Nepeta
Walking Around In Women's Underwear

Ha HaHa That's funny

36 posted on 12/22/2012 7:59:14 AM PST by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: DoctorBulldog
Thanks for sharing!

You are welcome!

I've only heard it sung when Levin plays it--but do a web search; I think you can find it on You Tube.
37 posted on 12/22/2012 8:11:42 AM PST by Nepeta
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To: pabianice

Sigh. Winter Winderland is NOT a Christmas song and never was. It is love song with a winter setting. It never mentions Christmas.
When I was growing up the radio stations would play “Winter Wonderland”, “Let it Snow”, “Sleigh Ride”, etc. *all winter long*. Then about 20 years ago or so, the powers that be decided that any song that mentioned snow must be a Christmas song too, and now Christmas is the only time you hear them. But they are really love songs with a winter setting. It’s just plain nuts.
The “Circus clown” lyrics go back deades too!


38 posted on 12/22/2012 8:14:10 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Craftmore

Agree.


39 posted on 12/22/2012 8:16:25 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: Rebel_Ace

To tell the truth I thought when I heard this as a kid the lyrics where “Then pretend that he is parched and brown”.


40 posted on 12/22/2012 8:19:34 AM PST by LauraJean (sometimes I win sometimes I donate to the equine benevolent society)
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To: Nepeta

I actually heard the womens underwear version in a grocery store — took me by surprise.

I have no problem with the circus clown stanza which is not new. It makes more sense if kids are singing the song!


41 posted on 12/22/2012 8:19:43 AM PST by Moonmad27 ("I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbitll)
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To: DoctorBulldog

Don’t believe what you read on Wiki, because it usually isn’t true. That Wiki story is a total fabrication. The song has been unchanged since it was first written.


42 posted on 12/22/2012 8:37:40 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: pabianice

I guess they are just lucky they didn’t change the lyrics to be more Muslim friendly.....

And we will Pretend it’s Imam Mohammed...he’ll say do you worship Allah...we’ll so NO MAN! He’ll behead us when he’s in town.....


43 posted on 12/22/2012 9:02:52 AM PST by jakerobins
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To: pabianice

Obama took a jab at reference to religion.Remember when he said they still cling to their Bible and guns.Only four more years left until Mao’s little red book is the new norm.


44 posted on 12/22/2012 9:03:18 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: pabianice
Parson Brown?

I always thought it was Orson Brown. Talk about misheard lyrics!

That part never made much sense to me, obviously.

45 posted on 12/22/2012 9:07:55 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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Parson Brown?

I always thought it was Orson Brown. Talk about misheard lyrics!

That part never made much sense to me, obviously.

46 posted on 12/22/2012 9:08:16 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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re: “Don’t believe what you read on Wiki, because it usually isn’t true. That Wiki story is a total fabrication. The song has been unchanged since it was first written.”

No, the article is quite correct about the other verse being written back in the 1950’s. I’m a music history (classic and pop music) buff and it is quite true that the “clown” verse was written for kids to sing. You are correct that it wasn’t in the original version, but you can find the “clown” verse in kid’s music song books that go back to the 1950’s.

Wiki isn’t always wrong, but it’s true you need to check things out.


47 posted on 12/22/2012 9:09:55 AM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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To: pabianice
I have heard the "circus clown" version for sometime and assumed the PC crowd had done their censorship. However, has "don we now our gay apparel" in Deck the Halls been deemed homophobic?
48 posted on 12/22/2012 9:12:06 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: pabianice
As a Jew I'm not up on Christmas songs ...

It's not actually a Christmas song. No mention of Christ or Christmas in it.

The composer, Felix Bernhard, was at least born Jewish, with a Yiddish-speaking mother. So feel free to sing it all you want.

The lyricist, Richard B. Smith, was in a sanatorium with tuberculosis when he wrote the words, and died young a few years later. So remember it's not entirely a happy song if you do sing it.

The alternative words were written for children to sing in 1953, and it looks like some later revisions kept the "circus clown" but took out the "kids" or "kiddies."

49 posted on 12/22/2012 9:25:42 AM PST by x
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To: Wiser now

I call songs like those “seasonal secular music,” while others, such as “Silent Night,” or “Adeste Fideles” are true Christmas songs.


50 posted on 12/22/2012 9:36:46 AM PST by Ax
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