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Cypress HS students suspended for disarming gunman
WFTX-TV ^ | Mar 1, 2013 | Matt Grant

Posted on 03/02/2013 7:45:59 AM PST by FLAMING DEATH

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To: FLAMING DEATH

Poorly written, which set everybody off:
“The student, who Fox 4 has agreed not to identify because he fears for his safety, says there’s “no doubt” he saved a life by disarming the gunman. And for that he was suspended for three days.”
OK, which is it? Suspended because he refused to identify the gunman or because he disarmed him?

Ten sentences later we find out: “According to the mother, the school suspended her son because he refused to cooperate in the investigation.”

The sentences that jumped out to me are:
1) “Despite the fact the suspect pointed a load gun at another student and threatened to shoot authorities charged him with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon ‘without intent’ to kill.”
How the Hell do the authorities know what his intent was. You point a loaded gun at someone and threaten to shoot him is clear enough to all but those authorities.

2)”Authorities were unable to watch the school bus surveillance video because the cameras weren’t working.”
Then why the Hell have them. Another useless Feel Good measure? One of the few “There ought to be a law” situations. Fire the maintenance crew or their boss. You see this a lot in 7-11 holdups and mall disturbances where the police end use having to rely on someone with a cell phone camera. Did any student use theirs?


41 posted on 03/02/2013 8:51:41 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: FLAMING DEATH

Kid’s twice a hero. Big one for the original act, longer term one for outing the libs.


42 posted on 03/02/2013 8:54:55 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: null and void

Here we see a prime example of government largesse at the local shoool district level. A Principal and FOUR deputies for single high school. Multiply that a million times across 57 states and you have today’s “America” full of little nanny empires....and that’s just the public school system.


43 posted on 03/02/2013 8:55:27 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

I had the same experience when my son was in Jr High. They explained their policy carefully. When they were done I explained my policy. Lurker Jr was being bullied at the time.

“OK I understand your policy. Now I want you to understand mine. If my son is attacked he is instructed to defend himself with the appropriate level of force to stop the attack. If you take any action whatsoever against him for doing so I will sue the District as an entity. I will also sue personally every single person involved if formulating or carrying out such an idiotic and dangerous policy. You people are legally, morally, and ethically responsible for the safety of my child while he’s in your care. If you fail at that I will see you all bankrupted, unemployed, unemployable, and living in the streets.”

The next day I sent a registered letter to their attention stating the same. At the bottom of that letter I cc’d a lawyer whose name I picked randomly from the phone book.

The day that letter arrived I got a call from the Principal telling me there was no need to involve the legal system and that I had simply misunderstood them.

The bullying ceased.


44 posted on 03/02/2013 8:57:07 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Drew68
Never talk to the cops:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE

45 posted on 03/02/2013 8:58:32 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Scrambler Bob

***you could not defend yourself in a fight.***

And yet those rules failed to keep a bully and his cronies from attacking you.


46 posted on 03/02/2013 9:01:36 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (THE SOUND OF MUSIC at the POTEET THEATRE in OKC! See our murals before they are painted over!)
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To: fattigermaster

***I’m a felon because I’m a black belt who hospitalized my robber.***

You need to be disarmed! Place your hands on the chopping block please!


47 posted on 03/02/2013 9:03:47 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (THE SOUND OF MUSIC at the POTEET THEATRE in OKC! See our murals before they are painted over!)
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To: PieterCasparzen
Clean out “special needs”, psychologists, social workers, etc., and you’ll cut the staff budget by 10%-15%.

And the aides for every 17 student classroom. Remember back in the day when there was one teacher in a classroom of 35-40 students and there were no disruptions?

48 posted on 03/02/2013 9:07:53 AM PST by bgill
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To: FLAMING DEATH

Though they didn’t say it, I can think of an extremely good reason to suspend these good students immediately.

To protect them and the school.

What if the gunman, let’s call him “Trayvon”, belonged to a street gang, who decided to immediately retaliate against the students that stopped him — at school. And remember also, the only thing they know about this is rumor.

So the next day they, and other students who are just scared, come to school with guns.

This is just one scenario, and there are a multitude of other ones. Trayvon might have a violent family who want revenge, etc.

The next day, if the administration is wise, they should place several discreet armed guards around the school, just to be on the safe side.

99% of the time, nothing will happen, and once the good kids are back, all is forgiven and teachers will be told to let them make up anything they missed, and be a bit generous to these kids with grading for a while. Finally some face to face time with the principal to let them know they did well, and no hard feelings.


49 posted on 03/02/2013 9:13:35 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Part of their “0 tolerance” policy for violence no doubt.


50 posted on 03/02/2013 9:14:45 AM PST by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the alter of "gun free zones"?)
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To: null and void

What kind of school needs a Principal, two vice principals, and two assistant principals? Maybe if they had 10,000 students, they could use a large staff like this, but c’mon, that’s crazy.


51 posted on 03/02/2013 9:16:04 AM PST by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: null and void

RIGHT THERE in a nutshell is shown the BIGGST single problem with the US Schools System today. That group of lamebrian administrators represents about $500,000 to $1,000,000 of wages and benefits per year for that ONE SINGLE school.

And, what do the parents get for that money???

STUPID, MORONIC decisions like the one in questions, along with American kids being forced to recitre the pledge of aliegence for a FOREIGN NATON.

The inmates are DEFINTITELY in control ............


52 posted on 03/02/2013 9:19:04 AM PST by CanuckYank
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To: meyer

Get rid of one vice principal and one assistant principal and save this single school a cool quarter million a year.

Plus decades of future obligations as 60% retirement...


53 posted on 03/02/2013 9:20:21 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: FLAMING DEATH

This is wrong. The kid is a hero, should receive a medal, a new car, something. I keep thinking back to Chuck Harder’s (the talkshow host) saying, “no good deed goes unpunished.”


54 posted on 03/02/2013 9:23:24 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: ConservativeInPA
That would be the gutless, spineless, impotent, so-called conservative teachers and administrators that don’t do anything.
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Yep! My feelings exactly. I have nothing but contempt.

And...The so-called “Christian” government teachers, well.

55 posted on 03/02/2013 9:24:15 AM PST by wintertime
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To: TADSLOS
Here we see a prime example of government largesse at the local shoool district level. A Principal and FOUR deputies for single high school. Multiply that a million times across 57 states and you have today’s “America” full of little nanny empires....and that’s just the public school system.
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That's why it is called the “education-industrial complex”. Add to that all the vendors and employees that service the schools.

In many counties, the government school district is the single largest employer with the most employees and largest payroll in the county. No other business comes even close. So?...With that many people benefiting from the government's socialist-entitlemen schools, do you think ministers will bite the hand putting money in the collection plate? ( I don't think so.) So!...Don't look to the churches to rescue our nation's children from the GODLESS schools.

56 posted on 03/02/2013 9:31:56 AM PST by wintertime
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To: Oatka
2)”Authorities were unable to watch the school bus surveillance video because the cameras weren’t working.”
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Betcha! Betcha! That this particular day was the **only** school day that the cameras were not working.

57 posted on 03/02/2013 9:33:51 AM PST by wintertime
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To: FLAMING DEATH

I just received this from Mr. Don H. Armstrong, I would hope he looks into this and gets all the “Facts”. Let’s see kid stops shooting.. Bad Kid? / Good kid????? (I vote for HERO kid)

“I understand your concerns and share them as well, at this time I do not have all the facts so I will be looking into this.
Please feel free to contact me .
Don H Armstrong
vice chair Lee County School Board district 4
239 634 0055


58 posted on 03/02/2013 9:40:30 AM PST by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416 "ItÂ’s one thing to make a law, ItÂ’s another to enforce it.")
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To: ConservativeInPA

I suppose it would have been okay with the school had a bus load and children and one driver been murdered.

Hat’s off to the young man who single handedly saved the lives of his peers.


59 posted on 03/02/2013 9:43:17 AM PST by formosa (consider me galt)
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To: fattigermaster

That is ridiculous. Essentially your crime is being able to defend yourself properly. Sorry for what happened to you.


60 posted on 03/02/2013 9:57:49 AM PST by EEGator
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