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Shelter In Place (vanity)

Posted on 04/20/2013 10:35:31 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin

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To: Truth29

” What about when the SWAT team shows up at your front door for a search without a warrant? What happens if you refuse? What happens if you agree and they do more than they say? What information did they gather extraneous to searching for the terrorists?”

Good questions that I don’t have all the answers to but I do know that disarming all the law. abiding citizens is not the answer.


21 posted on 04/20/2013 11:39:14 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Obama is the Chicken Little of politics)
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To: Honcho Bongs
Would you welcome the SWAT team into your home?

That's what many are asking themselves. I can see asking that people stay indoors for their own safety and so the cops can canvas the neighborhood. Letting them in my house.... that is a slippery slope. Will they be coming back to confiscate x,y,z they saw that I had? Will they plant something illegal and frame me later? If we become immune to letting them in without warrants in emergency situations then will they think they can come in any time they wish without reason and during non-emergency situations. Who defines a what an emergency is?

22 posted on 04/20/2013 11:42:36 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
"Shelter in place" means crawl under your bed and whimper when the government has banned all means of effective self defense for you.

This episode might well have turned into a hostage holding situation and even more deaths had things gone differently.

I suspect a lot of Massachusetts gun haters are reconsidering things today, will be if they have any sense, anyway.

23 posted on 04/20/2013 11:46:50 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

I am curious how many people are being punished for violation of the “Shelter-in-Place” order.


24 posted on 04/20/2013 11:47:22 AM PDT by Rodamala
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” I suspect a lot of Massachusetts gun haters are reconsidering things today, will be if they have any sense, anyway.”

I certainly hope so. And I hope it’s a lot more than just Massachusetts.


25 posted on 04/20/2013 11:51:35 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Obama is the Chicken Little of politics)
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To: Honcho Bongs
Maybe next time the authorities would pull a Shelter in Place for less dangerous reasons, like rounding up illegal firearms.

That has been on my mind too. The 4th and 5th Amendments seem to be all but dead now. Hopefully a significant percentage of the population would consider a "Shelter In Place" order for gun confiscation to be a more dangerous reason and immediately take action to make it more dangerous. By an order of magnitude.

26 posted on 04/20/2013 1:11:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: TigersEye

Orin Kerr over at The Volokh Conspiracy started a discussion about this

House-to-House Searches and the Fourth Amendment
http://www.volokh.com/2013/04/19/house-to-house-searches-and-the-fourth-amendment/


27 posted on 04/20/2013 4:34:56 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Obama is the Chicken Little of politics)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Look at it from the government’s point of view:
They can get a whole lot more money to do it this way!
Once disarmament of the populace is accepted then the taxes to pay for this kind of operation are obviously neccessary.

I bet Mass. eventually gets federal dollars- from the rest of us- for this fiasco of a response.


28 posted on 04/20/2013 4:43:48 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
Thanks for the link to that. I just found The Volokh Conspiracy to other day doing research on the Manchin-Toomey Treason Bill. I'll have to bookmark their site and visit it more often.

The “Pro-Gun” Provisions of Manchin-Toomey are Actually a Bonanza of Gun Control

You probably saw it already.

29 posted on 04/20/2013 4:50:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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