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To: steve86

I am of an age that I know a time when marriage was valued, most women stayed at home and took care of their children. I have made no claim that their should be two income families (I stayed at home and raised my child). After the divorced me, I HAD to go back to work to support myself and my child. I was fortunate to have an education and a career (prior to being a mom) to fall back on.

I know that you think that you can guarantee what life will be like for your children but you cannot. I suspicion that you probably do not have any personal exposure to higher education. You completely ignored my mention of places like Hillsdale College which do a wonderful job of educating and strengthening our young people. And you skipped over the distance learning options offered by many universities.

Christians through out history have always suffered persecution. Just because you lived in an area that seemed somewhat neutral does not change that. Read some Solzhenitzen if you want to see what life in the 20th century was like for Christians (and others) in the Soviet Union.

You lack knowledge of the rise of Hitler in Germany....Christians (and others) had plenty of opportunity to stop his rise. Instead they stood by and turned a blind eye.

And not to worry I did not feel harangued or picked upon. I enjoy a good conversation and discussion. Your points have been heart felt. And the truth is you and I agree on more than what we disagree on.


73 posted on 05/06/2013 10:55:42 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
I suspicion that you probably do not have any personal exposure to higher education.

B.S., MBA, Doctoral work, Neuropsychology, completed all but dissertation; A- average in classwork.

Read some Solzhenitzen

I have read Solzhenitsyn, and made no claims one way or the other about persecution of Christians in other particular countries.

Christians through out history have always suffered persecution.

Of course, That's why I selected a particular period and location when there wasn't much (at least not blatant, or threatening of religious liberty in a meaningful way. That's changed now -- the "Arlene Florist" case is in my own town (the nearest town)).

Christians (and others) had plenty of opportunity to stop his rise.

It wasn't always clear to people what was happening (early on) and in any event, that's hindsight. In fact, a butterfly could have flapped its wings somewhere and prevented Hitler from being born at all. Read about catastrophe theory. And if you are so keen about Christians proactively stopping evil movements, get out there right now and stop every last abortion in your city effective tomorrow morning. After all, more innocent lives have been lost that way than anything the Nazis did.

I am tired from the medication side effects and won't be able to post more today. I concur that we actually agree on most things but with a difference in emphasis. You seem to be more optimistic and hopeful about the future than me which probably is a laudable Christian orientation).

74 posted on 05/06/2013 11:45:56 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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