Posted on 05/07/2013 8:22:51 AM PDT by rktman
LAS VEGAS — “My whole libertarian approach comes out of being just a nutty f'ing peacenik,” magician Penn Jillette confides backstage at his show, a few hours before he is set to perform.
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Yeah. I like to say that I would never vote for a candidate that WANTED the office he was running for. And his comment about him being more effective as a loose canon is exactly what I used to say about Rush Limbaugh when people were suggesting he run for office. I still say it about Palin.
Penn never fails to bring up really good points and articulates them extremely well.
Too bad he reportedly doesn’t drink because I’d love to chat with him over a beer.
...but we can’t be pacifists on the world stage.
I read a novel a couple decades ago called “The Fatherland”. It is an alternate history read where President Kennedy is headed to Berlin to celebrate Hitler’s birthday in the early 60’s. Since the US never entered the war, the USSR was decimated and Germany has become sort of the equivalent of the USSR in the 60’s regarding Europe. But there is a detective story in it where Germany has this amazing secret. In the end it turns out this secret is that they exterminated millions of Jews.
So, why do I bring this up? Because it seemed unthinkable that who we thought were just a participant in a war that they won could actually be guilty of such atrocities, and that information could be hidden for so long. And then it hit me, that is EXACTLY what happened in the real world - except it is the USSR that won and Germany that was decimated. regarding the USSR. It is argued that they murdered far more Jews than Hitler did, but this did not become “common” knowledge until just the last 20 years or so. And they have just sort of been given a pass.
In the real world, it is why the Germans were initially seen as liberators when they entered the Ukrane. That is, until they rounded up the Jews.
Achievement of happiness requires gaining and keeping real goods such as health, wealth, and knowledge. The science of economics is able to demonstrate that gaining wealth requires prosperity, and prosperity requires economic progress, and that economic progress is best attained with a modern division of labor, which requires natural rights and free markets.
Of course we all know we just can't have alternate viewpoints on liberal networks.
Just think how horrible the world would be if we hadn’t gone to VietNam?
I saw his show in Vegas.. what a great person.
“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted and you create a nation of law-breakers — and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system.”
Quote by: Ayn Rand
(1905-1982) Author
Source: “Atlas Shrugged”, Part II, Chapter 3
Jillette is a libertarian, he’s also an atheist...what’s the difference? Not a whole lot that I have seen.
Atheist libertarians can go to hell. Matter of fact they will, regardless to how well they articulate their anti-socialist position, all whose names are not written in the Lamb’s book of life will be thrown into the lake of fire, Rev. 20.
“You can go to hell,” just an idiom, I really don’t want you atheist libertarians to go to hell. God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
I am a Christian first, conservative second (not libertarian, they are not conservatives), American third.
Then it's also your biggest beef with the Founders.
Is it even possible to have a nation of innocent men?
Aren’t we all guilty of original sin? Don’t we all need salvation?
“Penn Jillette is a ‘nutty ******* peacenik’ who wants the government off your back...”
Good luck with that; the sort of meddlesome Old Ladies attracted to careers in government nowadays are attracted quite specifically because it furnishes them the opportunity to f*** with everyone and stay quite fixedly on everyone’s back.
They’re the as*hole in-your-face weenies that everyone warned you about as a kid, now grown and become even more self-important.
> Then it’s also your biggest beef with the Founders.
Do you think a Libertarian president would have waged the Quasi War with France, the First Barbary War, the War of 1812 and the Second Barbary War?
“Is it even possible to have a nation of innocent men?
Aren’t we all guilty of original sin? Don’t we all need salvation?”
Well, yes according to God’s laws. However, man’s laws are a bit different.
Nobody said we had to be pacifists. We simply let the world know that each nation is now responsible for their own national security. No more “peace keeping” or “nation building”. Our foreign policy should be “F*** with the United States and we vaporize one of your cities. Do it again and we vaporize your country.”. No need for boots on the ground. No need for American troops in a hundred countries.
Minding our own business is not pacifism. Pacifism is for cowards.
You need to study history just a bit more and find out why America got into those wars.
I find it hard to believe a nation could exist without someone stealing something.
Who gets to determine the level of f***ing that warrants vaporization? Big f***s or little f***s, any f***cks?
That would be the Commander In Chief in accordance with a Constitutional Declaration of War. It’s all written down somewhere. Some really smart guys did it back in the late 1700s. You should look it up. It’s pretty interesting, actually.
I don’t know what you are saying or what point you are making. It is not a requirement for any nation to have folks who steal, however every population has evil members that do steal.
You are conflating some issues and are missing the point of that Rand quote.
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