Unable to pay for husband's funeral, Apple Valley woman allegedy buries him in backyard

presstelegram ^ | 06/21/2013 | Beatriz E. Valenzuela

[Average Al]

"a little cheaper...but cremation usually still requires you buy a coffin. go figure."

Perhaps a card board one if you want to show the body.

[JCBreckenridge]

Christians believe in the resurrection of the body, thus defilement of graves and bodies in graves is wrong.

[Vigilanteman]

Christians believe that the body is an essential part, and we believe in bodily resurrection.

Do you seriously think our God, who can resurrect a body which has decayed into dust and bone fragments, could not do the same thing with one converted to ashes and bone fragments?

[Albion Wilde]

I really don’t have a problem with this, as long as a person is buried in a coffin I think. I wouldn’t have a problem buying a house with the old folks buried in the yard, as long as they’re not next to the house and as long as they died of natural causes. ;)

Remains are usually required also to be in a cement liner far from a residential zone -- as a cemetery is the modern equivalent of a "south 40". Human decomposition can enter the water table. Animals will dig up a shallow grave; Scottish people, also American indians and frontier folks often covered graves with cairns (pyramids of stones) to prevent that. And if the next owners want to dig a garden, discovery of bones in a shallow grave would put them on the hook for identifying the corpse and all the costs involved with moving the remains to a more suitable location.

We may hate some of the effects of living close to one another in civilization, but there are often practical reasons.

[JCBreckenridge]

So why not dig up graves and ‘convert’ the remains into ashes and fragments? That’s the same thing, right?

Why do you think Christians in the Roman Empire resisted cremation and put their dead in the catacombs?

[Secret Agent Man]

and i am not bagging on her to be clear, i am just saying sometimes there ae real reasons why certain things are done to certain specs and rules. a second big issue with shallow graves and decaying bodies is the ground is going to give and you’re gongto have an indent and if it’s just sand and dirt and it’s muddy either the body or parts could make it back to the surface or you’re gonna step there and possibly sink in....

there are sometimes good reasons on how to buy someone properly.

[kenavi]

Cultural taboos about burial go back a long ways, to pre-historic times and in the ancient Middle East (e.g. Iran) for examples.

Jews have associated the burning of bodies with the holocaust of idol worship of ancient Carthage, and more recently that of the Nazis.

Traditional burial can't last, our species is filling up the earth, and more and more we plant infrastructure underground.

But unless as the Japanese have done we associate a sense of reverence with cremation or common graves, then we will eventually have to make changes through government fiat.

[The Great RJ]

I plan to donate my body to a medical school to train doctors in anatomy. My brother-in-law did this and when he died the university medical school arranged to have his body picked up by a local funeral home and about a year and a half later his cremated remains were returned to the family for burial...all without cost.

[Patriot Babe]

I agree first when my mother passed away the funeral wanted $5.000.00 up front then they try to sell us more stuff which we said no. Her total cost was like $10,000.00. Then when my father died they wanted again $5,000.00 up front then another $5,000.00. Thank God he had a life insurance policy he got from his work because we used it all for his burial.
This is insane that these funeral places are jacking up prices on all of us making it difficult to bury our love ones. I don’t see the Democrap shouting out that poor people are being enfranchised.

Bill Cosby had his son buried on his estate and Andy Griffith is buried on his estate. I thought it was against the law to bury on a private property.

[ZinGirl]

if only. when my mother-in-law passed away, my stepfather-in-law was flabbergasted at cremation prices. geez. still needed to buy a coffin. dems da rules. fine...he goes flipping to the back of the book for the cheapest one. we loved her dearly (and miss the heck out of her still), but a bargain-shopper she was for her whole life. crikey....she would have come back from the dead and walloped us if we paid for a fancy coffin which was just going to burn. it’s a crock, anyway.

[Patriot Babe]

All this remind me of this funny episode from Married with Children:

Bundy Family Barbecue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inubkn_TmUs

[Patriot Babe]

All this remind me of this funny episode from Married with Children:

Bundy Family Barbecue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inubkn_TmUs

[Rusty0604]

But social security pays out $250 for death expenses, doesn’t that cover it?
The guy probably worked and paid into the SS system and then dies before he collected anything. So the gov’t gets to keep the money, prolonging the ponzi scheme and enabeling more redistribution.

[Albion Wilde]

Yep. The industry-big government alliance still needs to get their cut. Still the average cremation is $1500 to $2000, still WAY less than the average funeral cost, especially when you add the costs of vaults, plots, etc.

I drove each of my cats' remains in their baskets to a local crematory (several years apart) and paid $100 apiece, but was subjected to the $200 sales pitch from the veterinarian for pick up and delivery of the body, etc. But then, I live in a populous region with options. Still, I don't think one could put Grandpa's fresh remains in the back of the SUV and drop him off at the crematorium to save money. I have read about cardboard coffins, though, dirt cheap.

[Average Al]

I believe most of this is covered by state law. I noticed in NC there is a firm that covers the whole cremation including picking up the body and paperwork for around $800.00.

[Albion Wilde]

I thought it was against the law to bury on a private property.

There are probably regulations that allow it if the acreage is above a certain amount and the depth of the grave, the liner, the marker and the tax bite meet certain requirements.

[OldNavyVet]

Desperate people do desperate things.

It's touching in this case.

[goodnesswins]

"but cremation usually still requires you buy a coffin. go figure."

HA....you can get a cardboard coffin for "viewing" if YOU ASK...(A family member did this)

[sauropod]

Can you explain further how cremation contradicts the law of God?

Thanks, ‘Pod.

[ExNewsExSpook]

Usually requires a variance in the local zoning laws, which can be arranged; of course. It’s easier if you’re a celebrity and live in areas where zoning laws are lax to begin with (that is certainly the case in much of NC)

As I recall, Mr Griffith was buried on the day be died,’without being embalmed.