Skip to comments.USS Forrestal, the Navy's first supercarrier, sold for 1 cent
Posted on 10/23/2013 1:04:43 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
Heres a penny for your thoughts: One red cent couldve landed you the Navys first supercarrier, the decommissioned Forrestal.
The U.S. Navy sold the 1,067-foot behemoth to a Texas company, All Star Metals, to be dismantled, scrapped and recycled, Navy officials announced. It's an inauspicious fate for a ship with a colorful and tragic history. It's perhaps best known for a 1967 incident in which stray voltage triggered an accidental explosion that struck a plane on the flight deck whose cockpit was occupied by a young John McCain. A chain reaction of blasts and fires ultimately killed 134 men and injured more than 300.
But its rich past and nearly four decades of service are not enough to spare it. The Navy tried to donate the historic ship for use as a memorial or a museum, but no viable applications were received.
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At least they didn’t sink it.
I hope the scrappers make some good money off it.
The USS Forrestal’s Anchors live on on USS Truman(I think). My First Ship(USS Independence CV-62) Anchors are on the Stennis(I think).
People have NO Idea how HUGE these things are!
The scrapper will make a lot on this, I think.
Did not know the Navy does that. Nice tradition.
I didn’t know they did that either as far as “Tradition” goes I think it’s just money(anchors weigh ALOT and are hard to make).
They should have kept the Forrestal and scrapped McCain.
Will the steel be headed to our friends in China?
Built a wonderful, and BIG, plastic model of it, back in the Fifties.
Nothing wrong with an artificial reef. Good for helping out the seafood populations. And they make for a nice dive excursion.
Still, glad the scrapers can make of $$$ on it. Perhaps some of that steel can make it into a new ship or two.
t’s perhaps best known for a 1967 incident in which stray voltage triggered an accidental explosion that struck a plane on the flight deck whose cockpit was occupied by a young John McCain.
Huh, I’ve heard he was hot dogging on the flight deck, but never heard the ‘stray voltage’ comment. Of course, everything needs to be grounded - period - aboard ship.
USN, CTT3, 1988-1992
Referred to as the “FID(First in Defense)” named after the first SecDef James Forrestal.
I would have paid a quarter, would have to park it in the Gulf because I couldn’t afford the gas. lol.
Could have made it into a floating hospital, be a bonanza when gov care kicks in.
It was a grand ship. I toured it in Pearl Harbor in 1985. It was an experience I will always remember.
When I was on the Lexington(74-78), I can’t tell you how many times we had to watch the safety film showing the Forrestal fire.
>>People have NO Idea how HUGE these things are!
Some people perhaps. But, a lot of people have stood on the deck of a supercarrier and know how big that are. I was a submariner in the Navy, but I did tour the Forrestal when I was in high school (on DEP) back in 1979.
You could moor it out on the lake and move your garden out to the deck.
I have an idea! I was an ET on the Saratoga, CVA 60. I climbed the antenna mast several times, once while at sea. It is a long way down from there to the flight deck.
I was a radar ET on the Lex. I once had to work on a radar antenna during flight ops. It sure was interesting watching the planes from my perch.
When the F-4 Phantom II pilot switched from external power to internal power, he saw a flash, and a Zuni rocket streaked across the deck and hit the 500-gallon external tank on McCain’s plane, splitting it and igniting it. The A-4’s were loaded with bombs while the F-4 Phantom II’s were prepared for MIGCAP although a Zuni, I would think would be for ground troop suppression and harassment.
Fuel and bombs kept exploding, killing the fire suppression crew. Other men fought back with foam and water, the water washing away the fire-suppressing foam. It eventually burned through the deck into the sleeping quarters below.
Or so, I’ve read.
If memory serves me, one which occurred in the early 70s was set by a young sailor who did not want to deploy on a 6 month Med cruise. He got his wish. The ship did not deploy. Of course, HE did not get to stay in Norfolk - I think Leavenworth may have been his next home.
When I was growing up in Virginia Beach, and the Forrestal was stationed in Norfolk, it was nicknamed the Forestfire.
That is $.01 FOB.
The draft of a carrier is only about 30 feet. Not too bad.
They will make a fortune. How many tons of copper and brass will they get off it, not to mention the high quality steel.
The true reason that a rocket went streaking across the deck from one plane to another will never be known.
At least once a year.
“You could moor it out on the lake and move your garden out to the deck.”
That thing would make a really big planter.
I knew some guys 40 years ago who scrapped some smaller boats. They did quite well.
Since I’ve been out of touch with that business for more than a generation, I don’t know what costs are up versus how much more commodities are worth, or in what sort of stripped condition the Navy would relinquish the carrier, but I suspect these guys will do very well.
I’m sad to say, that these days I’m suspicious of anyone who gets a good deal, and I’d be curious as to who said “take it away for a penny” was, what his history is, and who the guys who got it (high bidder at a penny?) were, and if they had any political affiliation with the administration or its supporters.
I think it would be cool to keep one of these old carriers running as an amusement park. I’d like to be able to buy an old aircraft carrier, refit/restore it, and run it as a “fantasy” cruise ship, complete with daily flights in restored F4s, A4s, etc.
It would be difficult to run such a project at a profit, but it would certainly be fun, and I bet there are quite a few people out there who would pay a premium to experience real catapult launches, exciting rides in fighter jets, and arresting cable landings.
Hmmm. Maybe I should buy the Saratoga...
But then it’ll probably cost a bazillion dollars to move it to the scrapper’s yard.
A lot of people will go to work scrapping that puppy.
Scrapping a big ship is no easy task nor is it cheap. Thus the ship breakers in places like India tend to work under the very crudest of conditions in order to turn a profit.
Alang, India would be one example.
Only by idiots like you who never serve aboard her.
A good friend of mine lost her brother in that 1967 incident on the Forrestal, John Lilla. The local American Legion is named for him...the Manning Lilla Post in Ovid, NY. I didn’t know that many men were killed....what a tragedy.
Strip all the most valuable metals off it, brass, copper, and such, then turn it into an artificial reef.
Here’s my friend’s brother who died on the Forrestal, June 29,1967.
That’s expensive too as fuel and hydraulic lines need to be either flushed or removed, all tanks cleaned, doors removed and on and on.
And then there is the actual sinking.
If I remember the show on Military Channel correctly the suspected cause was one of the “Puffer” (start carts) was parked too close to the ordinance on the next plane and the heat from the exhaust cooked of the first round and then All H&!! broke loose.
No matter what the origin was the results are the same.
Maybe mc lame remembers /s
Correction...JULY 29, 1967.
i served aboard her..
we called her the USS Zippo....
and yes the sailors did call her the forestfire..
it is clear to me that YOU never served aboard her..
I did four cruises and her nickname was the FID.
Look at the air wing in that pic. In many ways it is far superior to what we have on the decks of the carriers today. Today we have no carrier-based ASW capability, like the S-3. The A-6E was superior to the F/A-18 in all weather attack in terms of range and payload. The A-7 was superior to the F/A-18 in range and payload too. And of course the F-14 could fly circles around the F/A-18. And we had more aircraft on board back then to boot.
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