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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 45 NOVEMBER 8, 2013
Free Republic | November 8,2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 11/08/2013 12:23:38 PM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
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To: JRandomFreeper

Good decision. I got a lot of cleanup done today, and foraged a few persimmons. Got the garlic covered since we are supposed to get some really cold weather moving in tonight and tomorrow.

Was going to plant some wheat and rye, and put a sheet under the persimmon tree and shake it to get all the ripe ones I could, but the daylight ran out before I got to it.

The leaves are so thick under the persimmon tree that they will be hard to find if the wind blows as strong as the weather man says tonight. Que Sera, Sera.


141 posted on 11/11/2013 5:57:02 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella

In addition, you can sprout stuff even quicker than the 35 days to use with your staples. I am going to go through my list this winter, and try to concentrate as much as possible on stuff that will mature in approximately 60 days or less.

That way I can avoid the dry months of July and August, and most years, won’t have to water extra very often.

You might want to experiment with just one or two of your veggies for seed saving. It’s kinda like gardening - a learning experience- at least it was for me.


142 posted on 11/11/2013 6:06:38 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
“In addition, you can sprout stuff even quicker than the 35 days to use with your staples.”

I haven't mentioned sprouting. I bought sprouting seeds professionally packed for long term storage. Before I did that, I researched sprouts and bought the seeds, especially broccoli seed plus other types and bought the best sprouter kit to be able to sprout a lot of seeds one crop after another. For a while, poor husband had to eat sprouts day after day as I experimented with sprouting different seeds. Those seeds were going to be fresh salad with all the fresh nutrients to go with stored food. That was before this year when I started with actual plants.

So I have the equipment, the information, and know how to sprout seeds.

143 posted on 11/11/2013 7:18:35 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

LOL. I feel for your husband. I really don’t care that much for sprouts, but my youngest daughter is doing this. She wants me to use sprouted flour, but that’s too much trouble for me, so I told her she should do it herself and let us taste the experiments. LOL

She is also makes yogurt, and is in the process of learning to make cheese.


144 posted on 11/11/2013 7:37:46 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

omit that extra is before also makes yogurt.


145 posted on 11/11/2013 7:40:12 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
It's not so much “stamina” as it is stubbornness, but thank you. I just try and get a little bit dug whenever I'm able, and eventually it'll add up.
146 posted on 11/11/2013 9:33:15 PM PST by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: Marcella

Good advice on the deck corn, but it’s too late. They are already sold out. It’s ok, because I have more corn than I could possibly plant next spring anyway.

Maybe I’ll get some next year.


147 posted on 11/11/2013 9:34:53 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

“Good advice on the deck corn, but it’s too late. They are already sold out.”

NO, THEY ARE NOT SOLD OUT. Maybe you had saved the link and went there and didn’t refresh the link. I just looked and they have it. Buy it quickly.


148 posted on 11/11/2013 10:06:50 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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I have a lime tree in the yard. Got one lime off of it this year - first year planted. Hubby built me a teepee greenhouse over it since we are having out first freeze tonight and then again tomorrow night. I am in the lower central Texas area off of IH 10 north of San Antonio. Can I leave the teepee on it until spring or do I have to take it off when the temps reach 72 again (as in later this week? First time doing this. I want it to keep growing each year but don't want to kill it with heat in the winter.
149 posted on 11/12/2013 6:14:55 AM PST by gopheraj
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To: Marcella

Well, I don’t know, because I typed in the address directly and didn not use a link and I haven’t really ever done anything with Burpee before.

Anyhow, I checked it out right away, and they had some available this morning, so I ordered some. So thanks for the heads up.


150 posted on 11/12/2013 7:28:03 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

“Anyhow, I checked it out right away, and they had some available this morning, so I ordered some. So thanks for the heads up.”

You get 50 seeds for $5.95 and will have corn growing in a container, or more than one container. Their picture shows several plants in one container. I’m sure there will be instructions with the seeds.


151 posted on 11/12/2013 8:47:20 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella
It's frigging cold here this morning. The wind is out of the north at about 25mph. My cold frame is nice and toasty, though. I pulled all the green tomatoes and put them in a paper bag with an apple. We will be freezing tonight. A little early this year. Average freeze date is the 22nd.

/johnny

152 posted on 11/12/2013 11:44:27 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: gopheraj
Nice teepee. Good luck with the lime. It's going to freeze here near Ft. Worth tonight, but Sat is supposed to be back up into the 70s, with rain.

/johnny

153 posted on 11/12/2013 11:46:25 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper; rightly_dividing

My latest forecast is 36 tonight and 34 Wednesday night. These forecasts from Houston come to me all day so I’ll be sure to look at the latest in the evening to be sure I’m not going to freeze here.


154 posted on 11/12/2013 11:58:32 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: JRandomFreeper

I show rain of 50% chance Saturday, none before that.


155 posted on 11/12/2013 12:00:56 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella
I keep WeatherUnderground up on one of the computer screens, so I can monitor it during the day.

I brought in the aleo vera plants that I haven't given away and I'll see how they fare with the catz. I'm going to need the sunshelf space for my veggies/tobacco, and don't have room there for something like aloe.

/johnny

156 posted on 11/12/2013 12:17:30 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

After tonight and Wednesday night, temps at night will be back up and still up for all of next week.

In this area, one could go skinny dipping in December - oh, I remember you do that in Fort Worth during holiday season minus the water, cold or not and your pants end up on the roof.


157 posted on 11/12/2013 12:33:27 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella
It's chill enough today that I'm even wearing long pants. I was in shorts yesterday.

/johnny

158 posted on 11/12/2013 12:44:30 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thanks, Supposed to freeze here and tomorrow night. I am not sure how warm it will get in there during the warm days. I guess I’ll have to keep checking it. My satsuma orange is supposed to be very hardy. Got some really good oranges and it is the first year planted. Waited and waited for them to turn. Went and binged it and they sometimes don’t turn orange. Loved picking my own oranges. Now my sister is jealous ;)


159 posted on 11/12/2013 4:17:25 PM PST by gopheraj
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To: JRandomFreeper; greeneyes; sockmonkey; rightly_dividing; All
I have ordered a tomato seed (30 seeds is $3.95) I want you to know about. This was introduced by Burpee in 1979. They have so many tomatoes on their website, I accidentally came across this one. Had no idea there was such a tomato. The name is “Long-Keeper”. I'm always thinking “prepper”, and this tomato will keep during part of winter. Days to maturity is 78 days. Each one weighs 6 ounces.

It is indeterminate so it will keep producing until frost time. I have very early and early and medium/late tomato seed. This one is called mid-season. I would plant it so it is producing by early fall here which would be September. We are now mid-November and it didn't freeze here last night and won't in my garden area tonight and then temps. don't get to freezing until later. Pick these just before the plant goes down due to freezing. You will read to be sure one does not touch the other for the long keeping of 6-12 weeks or more.

There is a picture of these tomatoes “stored” and each is wrapped in what looks to be tissue paper or some kind of paper, and none of them touch. The picture shows some with the paper and some not with the paper but I think that is to show what they look like at that time and they mean to wrap each one in paper. Here is Burpee’s summary of this tomato:

“One of the best winter storage tomatoes!
Burpee Exclusive

A Burpee introduction in 1979, Long-Keeper is a must for winter storage. Staying fresh for 6-12 weeks or more, it provides fruits for fresh use during the fall and into the winter. The skin of these fruits is a golden orange-red when ripe. Use blemished or cracked fruits right away. Store fruits at 65-68 F, making sure that none touch each other.
Product Details
Seasonality: Mid Season
Fruit Weight: 6 ounces
Fruit Bearing: Indeterminate
Days to Maturity: 78 days
Sun: Full Sun
Height: 36-40 inches
Sowing Method: Indoor Sow
Spread: 18 inches"

160 posted on 11/13/2013 8:53:21 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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