Posted on 11/22/2013 5:43:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Richard Nixon thought Lyndon Johnson killed John F. Kennedy, according to legendary political operative Roger Stone.
“Richard Nixon told me in 1982 that he immediately knew who Jack Ruby was when he saw him shoot Oswald,” Stone told The Daily Caller in an extensive interview.
Stone’s new book The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ is currently tearing up the Amazon bestseller list and even earned praise from Ron Paul.
Among other revelations, Stone told TheDC that Nixon hired Jack Ruby as a House committee informant at Johnson’s request years prior to the Kennedy assassination, which occurred 50 years ago today.
“Nixon said, ‘The damn thing is, I knew this Jack Ruby. Murray [Chotiner] brought him to me in 1947, said he was one of “Johnson’s boys” and that LBJ wanted us to hire him as an informant to the Committee. We did,’” according to Stone....
(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...
Thanks. Interesting.
IIRC, I heard that Caroline released Jackie’s private communications recently, and it was reported that she thought LBJ was the one that was behind it.
Nixon was also a paranoid nutjob
Is it really paranoia when they’re out to get you?
Declassified in 2017.
you get WBZ in NC? or did you move?
So with JFK, it was called a Coup D’Etat but there’s certainly been those who have written that taking down Nixon was a “Silent Coup”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Coup
I think Nixon did well in relations with China and Russia. I think Nixon’s main fault was his loyalty to his men and that he had a loose tongue but he had to face the press who didn’t like him. Probably some Democrat Prezes could get away with those things. It was a 3rd rate burglary. Compared to most presidents, he was good but of course, nowhere near Reagan.
About the book by Stone, I can read what it says but I just don’t know if it is potent enough for me to believe.
“By late November, 1963, the Kennedys were within days of politically executing and personally destroying Lyndon Johnson via a two track program: 1) a devastating RFK-fed LIFE Magazine expose of LBJ’s astounding corruption and 2) an RFK-nurtured Senate Rules Committee investigation into LBJ’s habit of taking large bribes and kickbacks.”
This is some of what is in the book, hard to think this in Dallas happened against this background.
“* Roger Stone combines his decades of insider political ken with cutting edge JFK research to let you know what Richard Nixon, Henry Cabot Lodge, Barry Goldwater and the KGB all concluded: Lyndon Johnson orchestrated the assassination of John Kennedy.
* Stone ties LBJ to at least seven politically motivated murders prior to the murder of John F. Kennedy. Stone: “LBJ would order up a murder just as you or I would order a ham sandwich.”
http://www.amazon.com/review/R3HQ4Z6KGE3BUW
Apparently the above seems to be from a publicity mailout for the book.
I remember that my Dad believed, this is prior to the assassination, that LBJ was a thug, implicated in murders along with Bobby Baker. I was just a kid but I had already started digging my dad’s books out of the closet... None Dare Call it Treason, Goldwater’s book, and the like. I’d go to his “Young Republican” meetings with him... I was a freeper then, I just had to wait another half century for it to be born.
LBJ was one of the main things he held against JFK himself (not realizing that JFK apparently felt the same way about him).
The general counsel of the House Select Committee on Assassinations recounted the arrest and deportation of mob boss Carlos Marcello on the basis of his bogus passpart (either Guatemalan or Costa Rican, I can’t remember; in reality he was Italian). It’s likely that it was that event that started the wheels turning.
Oswald, like David Ferrie, had worked for Marcello’s lawyer.
Johnson barely sobered up enough to think about things, but he also wasn’t too bright. The purportedly conflicting ideas he expressed over the years about who killed JFK don’t speak to anything but his own mystification.
Just out of curiosity, why do you believe that the Warren Commission report was sealed for 50 years?
Do you seriously believe that the Report will be released now?
The interview is fairly long but to me is very interesting. The reason I tend to believe it is Jack Ruby. He appeared where he was needed, when he was needed and did what was needed.
A couple of years ago we went to Dallas and walked the scene and visited the museums etc. I concluded that the interview is a better explanation than most.
Here is more of it. I thought the previous post was the interview but found another section.
I don’t know for sure this is all
Yes, and in 1981 one little punk with a .22 revolver defeated Reagan’s Secret Service protection and nearly killed him. Government workers, even the so-called “elite,” screw up regularly.
One more post...... I am sorry for the multiple posts
If you play the video to the end a Bing video page comes up with several other segments of this very long interview. I didn’t realize at first the segment I sent wasn’t all of it.
Sometime before I had it all in one very long video but lost the bookmarked link.
I have been back and now understand it. There are at least 8 parts and are numbered P1 through P8. You find P1 and then find each segment in order.
I just watched the segment where she describes her dealings with Lyndon Johnson and the son she had by him
It is a wonderful tale, believable and un believable
I would really like to hear feed back if you will.
“Actually, there is no confirmation for a party at Murchison’s. I asked Peter O’Donnell because Madeleine claimed he was there, too. Peter said there was no party. Madeleine even said there was a story about it in the Herald (Dallas Times Herald) some months later (which makes no sense), but she had not been able to find it. Val Imm (Society Editor of the Dallas Times Herald) told Bob Porter (of the Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza staff) recently she had no memory of such an event and even looked through her notes - in vain. [18]
Could LBJ have been at a Murchison party? No. LBJ was seen and photographed in the Houston Coliseum with JFK at a dinner and speech. They flew out around 10pm and arrived at Carswell (Air Force Base in northwest Fort Worth) at 11:07 Thursday night. Their motorcade to the Hotel Texas arrived about 11:50 and LBJ was again photographed. He stayed in the Will Rogers suite on the 13th floor and Manchester (William Manchester - author of The Death of a President) says he was up late.
Could Nixon have been at Murchison’s party? No. Tony Zoppi (Entertainment Editor of The Dallas Morning News) and Don Safran (Entertainment Editor of the Dallas Times Herald) saw Nixon at the Empire Room at the Statler-Hilton. He walked in with Joan Crawford (Movie actress). Robert Clary (of Hogan’s Heroes fame) stopped his show to point them out, saying “. . . either you like him or you don’t.” Zoppi thought that was in poor taste, but Safran said Nixon laughed. Zoppi’s deadline was 11pm, so he stayed until 10:30 or 10:45 and Nixon was still there.”
http://mysite.verizon.net/dperry1943/browns.html
“At the time, Clint Murchison was at his Glad Oaks Ranch outside Palestine, Texas, about 75 miles southeast of Dallas. The owners of the house where the party supposedly took place were John and Lupe Murchison.”
The facts are plain - there was no such party and both Penn Jones Jr. and Madeleine Brown were responsible for concocting an account that contradicts historical facts. In November 2004 producer/director Nigel Turner would further confuse the issue by airing his flawed “The Guilty Men” on the History Channel.
Here are quotes specific to the party from Madeleine Brown’s own book:
“On Thursday night, November 21, 1963, the last evening prior to Camelot’s demise, I attended a social at Clint Murchison’s home. It was my understanding that the event was scheduled as a tribute honoring his life long friend, J. Edgar Hoover, whom Murchison had met decades earlier through President William Howard Taft, and Hoover’s companion and assistant, Clyde Tolson.”
Madeleine Duncan Brown, Texas in the Morning (Baltimore, The Conservatory Press, 1997), p. 166.
http://mysite.verizon.net/dperry1943/party.html
Dan Ray's one of my favorites.
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