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'They had no idea if my insurance was active or not!': Obamacare confusion reigns (truncated title)
Daily Mail ^ | 2 Jan 2014 | David Martosko, U.s. Political Editor

Posted on 01/03/2014 4:08:23 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32

Full title: 'They had no idea if my insurance was active or not!': Obamacare confusion reigns as frustrated patients walk out of hospitals without treatment

Hospital staff in Northern Virginia are turning away sick people on a frigid Thursday morning because they can't determine whether their Obamacare insurance plans are in effect.

Patients in a close-in DC suburb who think they've signed up for new insurance plans are struggling to show their December enrollments are in force, and health care administrators aren't taking their word for it.

In place of quick service and painless billing, these Virginians are now facing the threat of sticker-shock that comes with bills they can't afford.

'They had no idea if my insurance was active or not!' a coughing Maria Galvez told MailOnline outside the Inova Healthplex facility in the town of Springfield.

She was leaving the building without getting a needed chest x-ray.

'The people in there told me that since I didn't have an insurance card, I would be billed for the whole cost of the x-ray,' Galvez said, her young daughter in tow. 'It's not fair – you know, I signed up last week like I was supposed to.'

The x-ray's cost, she was told, would likely be more than $500.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aca; crappycare; democrats; obama; obamacare
I tried to do a search and didn't see this posted. If it's a duplicate, I apologize.

Didn't we try to tell them this would happen? We did, and were called racists for suggesting it.

1 posted on 01/03/2014 4:08:23 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

If you cannot show an insurance card with a policy number, effective date, basic coded payment types, and your name, YOU DO NOT HAVE INSURANCE!

If you get it later, you will have to take the bill you got and process it through the insurance company - if you really ever get a policy.


2 posted on 01/03/2014 4:13:06 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

3 posted on 01/03/2014 4:14:28 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

The UK media has been using Obamacare’s rollout to show what the alternative is to what’s here now with the NHS, had multiple coworkers ask if healthcare in the US is really like they’ve seen recently in the news. I


4 posted on 01/03/2014 4:16:41 AM PST by AnAmericanInEngland
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Great!

Besides at least ten times as many people having had their insurance policies summarily cancelled as have (allegedly) been registered/enrolled in ObamaCare (though they haven't necessarily paid yet), now we also have the problem of simply not knowing who has coverage and who doesn't.

I suspect that a lot of these people are completely disoriented, and just show up at the hospitals blithely assuming that, since they've heard about ObamaCare in the media, and because they have the requisite concentration of melanin in their skin, then that must mean that they automatically have coverage.

Can't these people simply produce the laminated ObamaCare photo ID that they were snail-mailed after enrolling? /snicker

The classic fallacy of believing that, e.g., if you've successfully fixed the shot brakes in 99% of your fleet of trucks, the problem is 99% solved - even if you are incapable of determining which of those trucks have been fixed, and which are still death-traps.

Regards,

5 posted on 01/03/2014 4:21:23 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
“Hospital staff in Northern Virginia are turning away sick people “

I did NOT see that the hospital was turning people away. I DID see that the people were turning away because they did not want to pay for their treatment.

Further down (lots further down)in the story it says that Maria Galvez would have had to pay the $500 for her X-rays with or without ObieCare, due to her $5,500 deductible.
NON-STORY story

6 posted on 01/03/2014 4:24:05 AM PST by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Philip Nolan every day)
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The problem is, these people simply don’t understand the concept of a “deductible”. they figure if they have insurance, everything is at no cost to them.

Sticker shock when they find out THEY have to put government mandated skin in the game.


7 posted on 01/03/2014 4:30:45 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.greenhornshooting.com - Firearms training in Jacksonville, Fl.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

The Treasury department is cranking out worthless dollar bills as fast as they possibly can. One would think they could fake a few ObamaCare cards until the real ones show up two years later. (snicker)


8 posted on 01/03/2014 4:35:40 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

The high deductibles are by design. Obamacare is suppose to fail (you likely know this) so single payer can take over.

I think the problem is it’s failing so badly the american sheeple are waking up and will flat out reject single payer.

Much like they rejected Obamacare. However, I think real tar, feathers and pitch forks will come out to keep single payer a commie pipe dream.


9 posted on 01/03/2014 5:03:16 AM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Id laugh but this is about sick people sick children who cant get treatment..

does someone have to die before theres acknowledgement that Obama has lead these people up a blood stained path ???


10 posted on 01/03/2014 5:07:48 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: cableguymn

I agree with you it was designed to fail but more slowly. The bottom completely came out from under it from day one and it crashed in Hindenburg style rather than a slow decay.

I can only hope, when (not if), single payer is the suggested solution, the American people rise up (Go Falcons!) as never before.

2014 will be interesting as DWS said democrats (small d, it’s intentional), will run on ocare. I betcha they don’t.


11 posted on 01/03/2014 5:10:34 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.greenhornshooting.com - Firearms training in Jacksonville, Fl.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“does someone have to die before theres acknowledgement that Obama has lead these people up a blood stained path?”

According to the anti-Cruz Rinos, we’re supposed to wait until it “implodes on its own”, not defund it or use Congressional powers.

None of those isolated oligarchs ever defined what that means: how many die, how many go without medical CARE, how many are bankrupt, how many credit card defaults, how many months of recession?

Many on this thread are correct about the underlying goal. Prediction: The 2016 Democratic nominee will run on implementing a single-payer system.


12 posted on 01/03/2014 5:21:31 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
One was faced with a $3,000 hospital room charge and opted to leave the hospital after experiencing chest pains.

An insurance company won't pay anywhere near $3,000 yet this person will be billed $3,000 if they're uninsured. That's a real problem. Corrupted medical billing.

13 posted on 01/03/2014 5:51:19 AM PST by MulberryDraw (Repeal it.)
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According to the anti-Cruz Rinos, we’re supposed to wait until it “implodes on its own”, not defund it or use Congressional powers.

So when it implodes on it’s own, what will the RINO’s do then?

Answer: What ever their comrades on the other side of the isle want to do, and to hell with their constituents.


14 posted on 01/03/2014 5:58:42 AM PST by redfreedom (All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing - that's how the left took over.)
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To: Tupelo

Ms. Galvez is being mugged by reality. Odds are she has no understanding whatsoever of what a deductible is, and is part of the class of people who thought Bammy was going to pay her rent and put gas in her car.

I expect the internet to be flooded with ‘I got free medical care thanks to Obamacare’ stories this week. Some will be lies/planted stories. Some will be people too ignorant to know that the bill will be coming.


15 posted on 01/03/2014 6:39:06 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: redfreedom

“So when it implodes on it’s own, what will the RINO’s do then?”

Vote to throw a whole lot of taxpayer money at the problem.


16 posted on 01/03/2014 6:39:57 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

does someone have to die before theres acknowledgement that Obama has lead these people up a blood stained path ???


Some of were shouting that long before Nancy said “We have to pass it to find out what’s in it.”


17 posted on 01/03/2014 7:07:33 AM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: lacrew

“So when it implodes on it’s own, what will the RINO’s do then?”

Vote to throw a whole lot of taxpayer money at the problem.

So the idiots that perpetually vote RINO are duped into thinking they are actually doing something.


18 posted on 01/03/2014 3:38:35 PM PST by redfreedom (All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing - that's how the left took over.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

We have to read this in a BRITISH newspaper, because in Britain they have actual journalists, rather than the “PROGRESSIVE” PROPAGANDISTS that work for US papers.


19 posted on 01/03/2014 3:55:09 PM PST by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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