BlackLight Power Announces Generation of Millions of Watts of Power

http://www.financialpost.com/markets/news/BlackLight+Power+Announces+Game+Changing+Achievement+Generation+Millions/9384649/story.html ^

[Kevmo]

It’s such a shame that you don’t address the science behind LENR claims. Perhaps it’s just because you’re too ill equipped. Plenty of zingers, but basically zero substance.

[Kevmo]

Uh, you neglect that the original poster said WattHOUR and Joule. And the HOUR was “Implied”.

So, exactly what IS the difference between a WattHOUR and a Joule? And what is the difference between an “implied” Watt-Hour and a Joule? Are resistors measured in Watts? or WattHours? Or Joules? Or Watt-”Implied Hours”?

[Kevmo]

Feel free to give us your energy density calculations.

Cold fusion reactor independently verified, has 10,000 times the energy density of gasoline
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3023592/posts
Fri 24 May 2013 06:35:28 PM PDT · by Kevmo · 568 replies
Intrade Gateway via Extreme Tech ^ | May 21, 2013 at 12:43 pm | Sebastian Anthony

[vmpolesov]

in kevmo-land

1 watt = 1 joule
1 amp = 1 coulomb
the voltage across a capacitor can change instantaneously
the current through an inductor can change instantaneously
the current into and out of a passive component need not be equal (kcl does not apply)
the sum of voltages around a closed circuit need not add to zero (kvl does not apply)
batteries are rated not in amp-hours but in units of watts per cubic meter (power density)
any equation can be balanced by applying kevmos to one side or the other.

I am suspecting this has to do with that arcane quantum tunneling stuff I don’t remember all that well from 3rd semester physics :-/

[vmpolesov]

well at least you’re talking about energy density that power density now, gives me a little hope

[Greysard]

how are resistors measured? Do you see a “Joule” setting on your DVM? I don’t.

I do, all the time. If you don't pay attention to such things you are in for a surprise. TVS diodes are an excellent example. This here diode is capable of absorbing a 200W pulse! But the diode is only 1x2 mm in size! Must be a miracle, right?

No, sadly it's not a miracle. The diode is capable of clamping that much current only for a few microseconds. Then those 200W of power heat the junction up, and the part goes up in smoke. In this case, 200W * 20 µs = 4 mJ. From that we can calculate the final temperature rise as dT = Q/mC. For example, the mass of the die in this part is 1 mg, and C=0.7J g^-1°C^-1, so dT = 4*10^-3/(1*10^-3 * 0.7) = 5 °C. That's a lot for a pulse that you can't see with a multimeter! If you look into the datasheet you will see more complexity because not all pulses are the same; and there is also the bonding wire that limits the current... the manufacturer has to calculate its temperature rise before it melts.

Power means not that much here unless you fully understand the energy that the component has to absorb - and what happens to it (conductive heating of the part, of the board, of the heatsink, radiation, convection.) Some larger parts have heatsinks, and you have to calculate how they help you in dealing with longer pulses. That's when thermal resistances come into play, and specific heat of all materials that are involved... sometimes you end up using CFD tools to validate your design.

[vmpolesov]

watt-hour and joule are both energy units

1 watt hour = 3600 joules

[vmpolesov]

you have saintly-level patince

[Kevmo]

Even if there is such energy, what are the byproducts of this reaction, and who exactly (biologists? chemists? physicists? poets?) so quickly declared them harmless, and what should we do with them?
***The byproducts appear to be heat and Helium, sometimes Tritium, and even transmutation of the host metal elements.

Just pile them up, until the end of days?
***Well, that works okay for heat until 3,000 years from now when the AGW guys are finally proved correct. And Helium is not only harmless but useful. The rest are recyclable metals and other stuff. Maybe there will be some radioactive Lead shielding that can be dropped into Chernobyl for the next 3000 years. I think that’s a pretty good start.

If they possess less energy than the ground state, there isn’t much we can do with them... they become dead weight forever, ashes of Hydrogen.
***We’ll kill ourselves with nuke weapons long before this becomes any kind of problem.

Also, I see that you are using salty water for the reaction. Even if we assume that salt is not a concern for the reaction itself, what happens to all these dissolved salts after the water is converted to plasma and then into something else, not seen before on this Earth?
***We put the salt in big piles just like we do now. Right now I’m no more than 3 miles from some of the most expensive salt flats in the world (Silicon Valley, most people aren’t aware of this). Now we can have salt flats in the middle of the desert or wherever. It won’t be a problem for 3,000 years.

Those ought to be piles and piles of salt..
***Wow, it would appear you are presuming millions and millions of gallons of desalinated water and salt piles. For 3,000 years, this won’t be a problem.

. and you know, that salt is not very good for the land. If you dump it back into oceans, it will be eventually changing the water;
***You could always build a molten salt fission reactor. But of course, your radioactive products would outweigh the salt wastes in a matter of a few short years, far less than the 3000 year goggles I’m putting on.

also, trucking of all that salt water across the country, and trucking the salt back, can’t be free. What’s the story?
***I think the story is that Morton Salt will be able to sell their salt flats for $millions/acre, and won’t even go out of business. By the time salt becomes a problem, we could cheaply fire it into outer space.

But I suspect if the reaction is real, and not imaginary, then salt in the water is bad news - for one simple reason: it had to be heated up.
***last I heard, desalination was a good thing. Deserts will bloom from all that water.

First, we lose energy on that; and secondly, that energy can break bonds between Na and Cl. What will happen then? You get Na and Cl2.
***I drive by a salt pile several days a week. It doesn’t scare me. Even if it were 10,000 times bigger, it still wouldn’t be radioactive nor even occupy 1/100th% of current desert land.

None of them are good for life, by anyone’s definition (unless you are an extraterrestrial from an unusually nasty planet.)
***Recently, salt chemistry was upgraded. Having a lot of it might be a good thing.
http://dailyindependentnig.com/2014/01/chemists-make-surprise-discovery-about-table-salt/

There is plenty in this theory that can be questioned even without debating whether the reaction itself is possible.
***Well, as far as I can tell, none of these issues will bite us in the ass for 3000 years. I think if we make it that far, we’ll be able to deal with the consequences.

[Kevmo]

asked & answered

———————www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg87491.html-———————

[Kevmo]

That isn’t even an answer. You’re too ignorant to even go back and address your own insinuations, and you only want to move forward with stupid insults rather than discussing the science. That makes you as useless as radioactive dog poo.

[Kevmo]

You seem to be going over the edge. Get ahold of yourself.

[Kevmo]

Run away, short pants. Full of insults, but in the end, zero scientific substance. What a waste of “supposedly” 2 EE degrees. Maybe you should ask for your money back.

[Kevmo]

If you had a solid engineering background, not even a physics major background, you’d see the problems inherent in their PR release
***If you had a solid engineering background, you would have posted what you see as the problems without going round & round like you’ve done. You’re more interested in creating invective than insight.

[Kevmo]

Like another post said, you do not need too many volts (between 83 and 84) of potential difference in the system that you pump 12,000 amps through to cause the system to yield 1E6 watts of power.
***It would be an interesting result, if that’s what the article said. But it did not say it, as far as I can tell, so to proceed from an assumption is an invalid argument from silence.

trying to get funding by pulling a fast one in front of a non-engineering crowd.
***Which is why I keep pointing to the upcoming demo. If LENR breaks out soon, Dr. Mills will likely be able to catch up and attract funding. At that point, he doesn’t have to be in the scientific lead, he just needs to be a player. The patent wars will be where all the action is, and he’s been in the middle of the firefight for 20 years. His inscrutible theory will be a part of the discussion. I doubt it will win out. I think of him as someone like Glenn Curtiss, who didn’t invent the airplane but he gave the real inventors such heartache that he got what he wanted out of the deal.

[Kevmo]

Well, isn’t that precious? Maybe if you answer the questions put to you, I will feel the slightest bit of obligation to hurry along & play fetch for you.

[Kevmo]

Four years ago.
***Ok. He’s off by 4 years, and the hotfusion fraudsters are off by 60. Who are the bigger fraudsters? Don’t worry, I know you won’t answer the question, but if you start answering my questions, maybe I’ll feel the need to go & fetch your citation so that you don’t have to get up off your lazy ass. I don’t suppose it’s too much to suggest you do a search for “Coulomb Barrier”, even though you don’t know what it is.

[Kevmo]

Patent is not approved, so they wouldn’t risk showing us the guts, even if it were real.
***Well, now. It seems that so many skeptopaths on FR thought that Rossi should have opened up his kimono even though his patent was not yet approved. So, if you say “they wouldn’t risk showing us the guts”, then that sheds some light on the latest developments in LENR and why industrialists aren’t acting like scientists. But it does not explain why scientists are acting like industrialists, unless there really was something to hide.

[Kevmo]

As for sticking to scientific arguments, If I remove invective and blather from your current response, this is what remains:
***That doesn’t address the fact that YOUR arguments lack scientific validity. Turning it around to me is a bunch of bowlsheet when we examine how many scientific questions I have put to you that you have blithely ignored. How about that there 14000 replications, Mr. Sucked-on-guvmint-Teat?

[Kevmo]

As for sticking to scientific arguments, If I remove invective and blather from your current response, this is what remains:
***That doesn’t address the fact that YOUR arguments lack scientific validity. Turning it around to me is a bunch of bowlsheet when we examine how many scientific questions I have put to you that you have blithely ignored. How about that there 14000 replications, Mr. Sucked-on-guvmint-Teat?