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Are front loading washing machines bad?
vanity | 1-29-2014 | Servo1969

Posted on 01/29/2014 7:47:36 PM PST by servo1969

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Speaking as a laundromat owner of many years, there is no compelling reason for a homeowner to waste their money on a front loader. The homeowner version is a weakling compared to a commercial unit with wimpy bearings and an undersized trunnion. While they look sleek, and save a little water, all you have to do for reference is see your local Craigslist to see how they hold up. Spend your $$$ on wine, women and song instead; you won’t be sorry..


81 posted on 01/29/2014 8:39:26 PM PST by pingman (In the Land of the Perpetually Outraged, truth is the enemy.)
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To: Citizen Soldier

How does that work when it’s full of water?


82 posted on 01/29/2014 8:40:11 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: servo1969

We bought a set of LG HE earlier this year and will never return to a top-loader washer again. Washed items are almost completely dry when the cycle completes and the washer dispenses the appropriate amount of detergent for the cycle and weight of clothes.

http://www.lg.com/us/washers/lg-WM4070HVA-turbowash-washer

I highly recommend LG’s dryer with steam technology. I use the steam cycle to de-wrinkle clothes and sanitize items that don’t go in the washer. It comes with a removable shelf for steaming items you don’t want to tumble.

http://www.lg.com/us/dryers/lg-DLEX8000V-electric-dryer


83 posted on 01/29/2014 8:44:10 PM PST by callisto (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: servo1969

Lived in Germany for several years, front loaders were awesome. High velocity spin dries so much that using the dryer was quick which made up for the length of time it took to wash. Uses less water and less detergent. Came to the states and (7 years ago) researched for highest spins so we bought a set of Bosch front loaders. Was advised to use High Efficiency detergent, instead used less of regular, and it worked well. If the load was extra dirty, use an extra rinse and use heavy duty cycle. After use leave the door ajar for a couple of days, wipe dry the door gasket too. I have never had an odor. Blessed enough to have a second home in Florida. Bought Maytag front loaders (3 years ago), same thing. Wouldn’t trade them for anything. Hint——If you do the whites as the last wash and use bleach, the washer stays fresh smelling. Let air dry a couple of days and then you can close the door. I never have problems, and I don’t always need to clean the gasket.


84 posted on 01/29/2014 8:46:49 PM PST by lula (Shine the light of truth Lord, confound the deceiver I pray...AMEN!)
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To: servo1969

Had a GE top loader that gave no problems that I can recall for about twenty years - got a Kenmore front loader about eight years ago and had to replace the front seal within three years - replaced the whole washer with a new front loader last November after the drive started to make a terrible noise that supposedly would have taken a thousand bucks to fix - and of course we had to replace a new stand to put it on because the new washer, also Kenmore, wouldn’t fit the old stand - don’t notice any difference in the cleaning of the clothes, and never had a problem with odor or mold, but wife likes it because she says it’s easier on her bad back - so there you are.....


85 posted on 01/29/2014 8:50:24 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: servo1969

I’m also looking for a new machine. My sister in law has had 3 front loaders and said DO NOT get one. She had tons of trouble (guess she thought it was just the brands but after the 3rd one figured out it is just front loaders in general are not good).

I can’t figure out what brand of top loader - had a Samsung HE and it worked great for a couple of years, but now getting unbalanced almost every load. Have had it repaired several times and now Best Buy is going to replace it.

Problem is, all the reviews are mostly people who have had their washer for a few months. Apparently the manufacturers come out with new models every year, so you cant get data on one that is 5 years old that everyone loves and go out and purchase the exact same model.

I’d like one that actually lasts several years without breaking down, like the old ones from the 1960s and 10970s.
Consumer reports is pretty worthless, they only give reliability data on a few unknown brands of top loaders.


86 posted on 01/29/2014 8:52:03 PM PST by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: servo1969

You’re going to have your hands full with these replies.

I read through half of them and decided to offer my .02 based on experience:

Bought a Whirlpool Duet F/L washer about 3 years ago. After learning the hard way about HE laundry soap on my first F/L (a Maytag...don’t do that brand or its clones), I would recommend this one hands down. Yes, if you keep the door shut and don’t clean out the lint from the gasket it will smell if you must close the door, worse if you have pets (pet hair, etc.). I think I’ve cleaned mine a half dozen times (should be doing more) but we keep the door propped ajar (no smell, hence only 1/2 doz. cleanings). Nothing’s ever broken, nothing’s ever gone wrong (I’m rough as hell with the rubber removing towels/bedding...no problems with it OR the door). As far as ‘not cleaning’, soiled clothes & towels get the ‘pre-soak’ option (it really does make a difference). My grimy white socks come clean, so I know the washer’s working well. We even switched to a homemade natural laundry soap and am getting even better results. On the pre-soak option: This is the ONLY washer I’ve ever used that will remove moldy smell from those towels dumped in the hamper and sitting for a week; ONE wash.

Bonus: The extra spin cycle is like an extractor and not only does it save me water $$ but electricity on drying as well.

Good luck.

One more thing: Young-uns don’t know how to wash clothes. You can tell the age or experience of a commenter by the comment ‘doesn’t get clothes clean’ (sorry, folks, but that’s my opinion). I’ve never owned a washer that didn’t get clothes clean, only ones that went through the motions not knowing I put especially-soiled clothes in it without pre-treating (or, in my most recent experience, ‘pre-soaking’). If I owned a washer that would take our then-12 y/o boy’s grimy clothes and get them clean without any extra effort, I wouldn’t dare put my dress shirts in it. I DO wash my dress shirts in my Whirlpool AND it gets my whitey socks clean (but I don’t expect the washer to think for me).
And don’t make the non-HE soap mistake; suds in a front-loader mean either “wrong soap” or TOO MUCH. Suds are BAD and don’t contribute to cleaning AT ALL.
Again, .02...


87 posted on 01/29/2014 8:52:07 PM PST by logi_cal869
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To: servo1969
My wife was insistent that we buy a front loader five years ago when the old top loader wore out. After a week, we started noticing a bad smell in the wash room. We couldn't figure out what it was. It was the front loader. Never had an odor problem with the top loader.

All the "experts" claim a front loader works better than a top loader. Maybe they do, but In the years I was single and when I was married, I never noticed an odor problem with the top loader. Now we have to keep the window open quite a bit for the front loader. Yes, we try to keep it clean and aired out. It still smells after a load of wash.

88 posted on 01/29/2014 9:03:57 PM PST by driftless2
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To: servo1969

I bought a front loader from Sears about 6 years ago and I have zero of the problems you mentioned and it gets my laundry clean to boot. It also has saved on my water and hot water heating bills. Don’t believe everything people tell you. ESPECIALLY relatives!


89 posted on 01/29/2014 9:07:29 PM PST by RocketMan1 (Creepy White Ass Cracka.)
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To: logi_cal869
"Suds are BAD and don’t contribute to cleaning AT ALL.

That's what I hear, but personally, I don't buy it. When I fill a sink with dish soap, I don't want to see just water and no suds. I want to see lather when I shower; clear water doesn't cut it. When I wash my hands, the soap foams up. So I don't want any less for my clothes.

I want foaming, billowing mountains of suds. ;)

90 posted on 01/29/2014 9:07:33 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: IncPen
One note on the Duet (and several other brands I have read about). My duet stopped draining properly and the door stayed locked with clothes in it. Of course this happened to the wife while I was gone on a business trip, two days later I got home and got to pull the thing apart to drain the tub.

My duet has a trap to keep the pump from ingesting materials. You need to clean that every once in a while. If it gets jammed up with junk and the tub is full there isn't really a good way to drain that tub.

91 posted on 01/29/2014 9:15:39 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: servo1969
We got a used Bosch 2 yrs ago and no problems. It washes the clothes really well. At the end of a cycle I just take a paper towel and dab any moisture on the rubber door ring and leave the door open overnight to completely dry out. Have never had any mildew problems.
92 posted on 01/29/2014 9:17:23 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: servo1969

We have a five year old (plus) set of full size...front loading....they are fine...I keep a towel in the washer door when it’s not in use (no small kids in the house...cat hasn’t tried getting in yet). I also use vinegar in every wash...and clean the washer at least monthly according to instructions (with bleach.) No problems.


93 posted on 01/29/2014 9:17:33 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: dandiegirl

Yes....what you said about transferring to dryer is a pain....when ours wear out, the next set will come with a “stand” that raises them up.


94 posted on 01/29/2014 9:18:56 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: KrisKrinkle; servo1969

“It doesn’t matter. Your wife wants one.”

Just make sure you get it in writing! My wife wanted a fancy front loader when I was fine with the old-style top loader. She complains now that “how can it get the clothes clean without any suds? I hate this washer.”

I think it does just fine. But if you put too much soap in to make it “suds” (I STILL don’t see many bubbles - it needs more soap), it blows out the $100 “suds” sensor and it won’t work anymore. And after you get it fixed it forces you to put big labels on all of the bottles that say “ONLY fill to FIRST line. DO NOT put any more in than the FIRST line.” And even then, answering the phone and saying “Yes dear. Just up to the first line, the first one from the bottom that I marked. No - you aren’t supposed to see any bubbles.”

I’m guessing that it won’t last anywhere near the 20+ years we had our old one, so then we can get a top-loader again (and make sure to get it in writing that was the choice). All new appliances don’t last like the old ones did. There was an article somewhere talking about energy efficiency ratings, etc. and how the motors are smaller (takes less elec.) but they strain more. Also that is the reason why cycles take so much longer. Of course in the old days if it was 40 amp/hours (or whatever unit they use) for a half hour, and now it is 20 amp/hours for an hour, it’s the same but looks better (Hey 20 vs. the old 40, that’s twice as good!)


95 posted on 01/29/2014 9:23:26 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: servo1969

Had a LG front loader for 10 years. Hated it. Always smelly.

Got a top loading LG, and I love it! All the bells and whisltes of my front loader without the smell, and it is much easier to load and unload! It also washes more than the front loader! I love it!!!


96 posted on 01/29/2014 9:42:47 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: bigheadfred

TMI!!


97 posted on 01/29/2014 9:43:41 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: servo1969

It does a really good so far (6-7 months on)


98 posted on 01/29/2014 9:44:28 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Shimmer1

ping


99 posted on 01/29/2014 9:44:58 PM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: bigheadfred

It moves the clothes without an agitator. It’s wonderful! We have the same kind, and I love it!


100 posted on 01/29/2014 9:46:06 PM PST by luckystarmom
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