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*Vanity* Fukushima Radiation likely to arrive on West Coast next month.
me | March 9, 2014 | Bushwon

Posted on 03/09/2014 6:32:40 PM PDT by Freedom56v2

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To: huldah1776

So in your opinion, what are the ramifications going forward?


121 posted on 03/09/2014 10:59:26 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: bushwon

You should just pack up your stuff and flee to Indiana then. I’m going to stay right here.


122 posted on 03/09/2014 11:23:23 PM PDT by Scutter
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To: bushwon
Here is a current picture of Hiroshima.

Even if you get a Geiger counter, what will you do with the info?
123 posted on 03/10/2014 3:57:46 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: logi_cal869
That's 26 1/2 Million times background pre-Fukushima. Even is my math is egregiously in error, it's still an order of magnitude, not 'diluted'. And the Pacific won't 100% dilute anything in 3 years, let alone 100.

Cesium 137 is an artificial element. Comparing current levels stemming from Fukushima to nearly entirely-decayed levels left over from bomb testing is obviously going to give you a very large scary-sounding number. The real question is what does 1.6, or 160, or even 1,600 Bq/m3 really mean in the real world?

The EPA believes that 7,410 Bq/m3 is the safe limit in drinking water, and presumably they've done the math far more than twice.

124 posted on 03/10/2014 4:31:41 AM PDT by mvpel
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To: mvpel
The EPA believes that 7,410 Bq/m3 is the safe limit in drinking water, and presumably they've done the math far more than twice.

Care to explain/revise that statement? (talk about scary numbers)

125 posted on 03/10/2014 7:06:32 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869

Sorry it took so long to get back to you.

I checked your numbers, and there are errors.
137 million cubic miles of ocean converts to 5.7E17 cubic meters of ocean.

If I take 13E+15 Bq and divide it by 5.7E+17 cubic meters of ocean, I get 0.023 Bq/m3. Not 1.6 Bq/m3, as you found.

A Bq equals one disintegration per second. Just one. 0.023 Bq/m3 would be equal to one disintegration per second in one standard size olympic swimming pool. This is waaaay below background levels.

Cesium-137 has an activity of 3.215 TBq per gram. That means that, using your numbers, that 933 grams of Cesium-137 has been released into the Pacific ocean. 933 grams of cesium would fit inside a cube that is 3 inches long on each side.

Now take that cube and disperse it in the entire Pacific ocean.

Dilution.

In regards to Pacific currents, your discussion would need to factor in density. Hydrated compounds of cesium are far more dense than water, and would thus sink to the bottom of the ocean rather than float around.


126 posted on 03/10/2014 10:05:55 AM PDT by kidd
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To: kidd

Well I’m glad you were here to correct me. Appreciate it.


127 posted on 03/10/2014 3:55:43 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: bushwon; Kartographer

I had hoped to live off the land/sea, but now I am concerned that a major food source may not be as safe/healthy as I would have thought...

As a prepper, would you have anything to add to this discussion? I would appreciate your input.


128 posted on 03/10/2014 6:53:03 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Scutter

You should just pack up your stuff and flee to Indiana then. I’m going to stay right here.


Actually, Indiana is a very nice state, but I have no ties there.


129 posted on 03/10/2014 6:59:29 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: bushwon

Looks to me that if you are in the Pacific you will have to travel south down to the the South Equatorial Current. Cruising the coast of South America. Chile I would think would make a good port of call.


130 posted on 03/10/2014 7:02:30 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: outofsalt

Well, that is a wonderful picture of Hiroshima; however, it did not look particularly wonderful in August of 1945.

Primarily, I would like to be able to determine increased radiation levels in kelp, seafood and oceanic fish over time.


131 posted on 03/10/2014 7:04:55 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Kartographer

Thank you for the reply. Not cruising (wouldn’t that be wonderful!!),I am stationary...with property on the west coast—concerned about radiation contaminating food from the Pacific, which would be a major part of my diet. Just thot perhaps preppers had some ideas on this. I was looking for anyone who had experience with Geiger Counters or other radiation detection devices...something affordable, accurate, and affordable...


132 posted on 03/10/2014 7:09:07 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: bushwon

Someone suggested property sales at their local universary for good priced Geiger Counters.


133 posted on 03/10/2014 7:10:51 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Thanks, that is a great idea :)


134 posted on 03/10/2014 7:17:34 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: logi_cal869
Care to explain/revise that statement? (talk about scary numbers)

What's unclear? The statement itself is entirely factual and needs no revision, as it is a straight conversion from 200 picocuries per liter which is the EPA's drinking water limit for Cs-137.

135 posted on 03/10/2014 7:48:06 PM PDT by mvpel
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To: bushwon
Perhaps it is the lateness of the hour, but I got a really good audible laugh out of your clever reply and picture in spite of the concerns you raise!

You made my day. Thanks.

136 posted on 03/10/2014 10:24:47 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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