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If you're wondering what's happening to cause the irrational violence we are seeing in America, this may just have something to do with it. I think it does.
1 posted on 03/29/2014 9:59:00 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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Bttt.

5.56mm

2 posted on 03/29/2014 10:06:56 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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No one had to train Cain to kill his brother.


3 posted on 03/29/2014 10:08:41 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Huh.


4 posted on 03/29/2014 10:11:28 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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Cops should not be allowed to play video games that depict gratuitous violence... Period.


5 posted on 03/29/2014 10:12:12 AM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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“...the largest school massacre in American history happens in my hometown of Jonesboro, Arkansas. That was the March 24, 1999.”

The article’s posted date is August 10, 1998. This does not compute...


6 posted on 03/29/2014 10:14:28 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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Grossman frames his argument from a position of authority. He tries to leverage his status as a professional Army officer to reinforce his points. He cannot be assailed.

He cites as proof for his argument:

During World War II, US Army Brig. Gen. S. L. A. Marshall had a team of researchers study what soldiers did in battle. For the first time in history, they asked individual soldiers what they did in battle. They discovered that only 15 to 20 percent of the individual riflemen could bring themselves to fire at an exposed enemy soldier.

Grossman knows, or as a professional soldier ought to know, that this statement has been thoroughly debunked. Marshall made up the data rendering his "study" useless.

While I may agree with some of his points, I believe that his writings need to be taken with a fairly large dose of skepticism.

7 posted on 03/29/2014 10:18:15 AM PDT by centurion316
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Nope.

I play violent video games, used to hunt(live in CA, travel to far to hunt), own guns, beat up my three younger brothers when I was younger, etc, etc, etc, and whatever is so called bad for you.

I abhore violence to the point I won’t kill a bee if it flies into my house. I simply pick him up and take him outside.

Same with a frog that kept getting stuck in cement pond. He was going to drown eventually and would have bothered me. I took him a couple miles down the road and set him free near a creek.

He probably died by the mitts of a raccoon that night.

But, make no mistake: Take a swing at my head and it’s on like Donkey Kong.

Come to my house threatening to injure or kill anyone in the house and my dogs, I will end you on the spot, if you so much as flinch.

Other than that, I can’t stand violence and will do whatever I can to avoid it or talk myself out of it.


11 posted on 03/29/2014 10:30:35 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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The very first son born of a woman murdered his brother.


18 posted on 03/29/2014 10:50:31 AM PDT by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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The murder rate has been chopped in half since 1993. Are kids watching less TV and playing less violent video games nowadays?

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm


19 posted on 03/29/2014 10:55:06 AM PDT by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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FANTASTIC ARTICLE - THANK YOU FOR POSTING!


26 posted on 03/29/2014 11:34:27 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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**and two boys, ages 11 and 13, are in jail, charged with murder. ***

The last I heard, one of those boys was living in Fayetteville, Arkansas, about 30 miles from here.


27 posted on 03/29/2014 11:38:53 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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28 posted on 03/29/2014 11:43:02 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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His credibility went right out the window when he referred to a statement from the American Academy of Pediatrics. They are a radical left wing, and profoundly anti-gun organization. They are pretty much indifferent to pediatrics as opposed to leftist agenda politics.


29 posted on 03/29/2014 11:45:29 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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Children don't naturally kill;

Yeah, they do. In fact children are more likely to kill because they lack the "governors" that are implanted by parental training.

They generally have less opportunity to kill.

But anyone who has worked with children know that given the right motivation they can kill even more casually then adults.

30 posted on 03/29/2014 11:51:35 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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Nobody requires training to be bad. That comes naturally.

We spend time training kids from the time they can learn/understand, to be GOOD. Because we see they REQUIRE the training to be GOOD. What comes easy and natural is being bad.

The video games come into play because it’s conditioning the BAD part of people, to desensitize them and for some it crosses over into real living.

But what really kills us is the training to be GOOD is either ignored by parents to do, insufficient, or never was reinforced. And the lack of Christian faith in the house and such, makes it that much worse.

If you aren’t trainging to BE GOOD, and reinforcing it, and they’re only getting ‘training’ that reinforces BAD, there’s nothing they’re learning to put the video game or negative stuff into proper perspective and context. ie a Christian can explain that violence may be necessary in self-defense but not as a way to terrorize others or to be used trivially.


31 posted on 03/29/2014 11:52:08 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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While I do not deny that video-games may desensitize teens to violence, do not forget that there are lots and lots of suburban middle-class teens doing violent video games, and somehow managing to resist the urge to kill everybody they see.

Meanwhile, we have other teens, in places like Detroit and Camden, who are killing people on a routine basis.

It's not video games that are prompting the killings.

33 posted on 03/29/2014 12:31:09 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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Jonesboro was not the largest school massacre. Not even close. This guy can’t do the most basic research.


38 posted on 03/29/2014 12:50:37 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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Wow.....


39 posted on 03/29/2014 12:50:54 PM PDT by varmintman
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After reading this article I am now desensitized enough to kill ANY SOB who tries to take my firearms.


43 posted on 03/29/2014 1:16:09 PM PDT by Renegade
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Lt. Col. Dave Grossman considers himself the expert in Killology.

In 1975 USMC officers had classes in Killology while attending TBS (from a Marine Captain).


52 posted on 03/29/2014 7:37:33 PM PDT by opbuzz (Right way, wrong way, Marine way)
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