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To: Swordmaker
Apple took home 87.4% of ALL mobile phone earnings last year.

That is nonsensical. Apple made about $30b from mobile phones last year, compared to about the same number from Samsung. That's the equivalent of saying that all mobile phone makers apart from Apple and Samsung lost $20b last year. Whomever came up with that silly % is just making it up. Given that companies don't post these numbers, he might as well be speculating as to whether unicorns have wings. There's no way to verify the truth of his assertion.

42 posted on 05/14/2014 11:03:36 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
That is nonsensical. Apple made about $30b from mobile phones last year, compared to about the same number from Samsung. That's the equivalent of saying that all mobile phone makers apart from Apple and Samsung lost $20b last year. Whomever came up with that silly % is just making it up. Given that companies don't post these numbers, he might as well be speculating as to whether unicorns have wings. There's no way to verify the truth of his assertion.

Actually, Zhang Fei, it is not "nonsensical" as they DO post those numbers in their annual financial reports. . . and it is worse than you estimate because your numbers are off by a large amount.

Apple did indeed take home the lion's share of mobile phone (not just smartphone) revenues, earnings AND profits, they also did the same in PCs. And, yes, you are right. The other makers except for Samsung did indeed LOSE money. Apple and Samsung, between them split 120% of the take. . . with the others all reporting large losses. These are facts of the mobile market.

"Apple, along with Samsung, has unrivaled scale advantages. Apple and Samsung's profit data show just how tough it is to make money in the mobile phone industry. Since many other vendors are losing money, Apple and Samsung's share of the industry's profit go beyond 100%. Together, they account for about 120% of the industry's earnings. No manufacturer beyond Apple and Samsung has made any meaningful progress at snapping up a solid sliver of this lucrative market." Source — The Motley Fool — 02/14/2014

Your $30B guess for Apple's revenue is way off... even for Mobile phone profit. And your assumption that Samsung's profit is equal to Apple's is even more off. It's only half or less. Apple's 2013 Revenue was $171 Billion. About 74% of that came from the Mobile market revenues. So Apple's 2013 take was approximately $125 billion of the market's revenue. Profit was, of course, considerably less. Samsung's revenue is about half that of Apple in this area even though they sell about two times more phones.

45 posted on 05/14/2014 11:40:20 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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