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The Maine Secession Movement is now actively inviting
Maine Secession Movement | May 24, 2014 | Maine Secession Movement staff

Posted on 05/24/2014 6:48:40 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine

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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

Good. However, given that the Catholics put a somewhat different meaning in the expression (it stems from a difference in interpretation of John 3:1-8), whereas as a rallying cry it tends to address Evangelical and Fundamentalist Protestant Christians, it needs to be explained. Perhaps “all Christians” or “all committed Christians” would serve your political purpose better.

I am also curious on what grounds the Islam is excluded as a recognized religion but Atheism is not?


181 posted on 05/26/2014 11:35:40 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
"I am also curious on what grounds the Islam is excluded as a recognized religion but Atheism is not?"

islam is a religion that by it's very own determinations is a religion of killing, atheism isn't, for the most part, also we really can't think of any reasons those who deny Christ would want to be here.

But most of that stuff is over my paygrade, I am the public relations guy, the guy that post on FR, not the guy that makes the hard decisions.

182 posted on 05/26/2014 1:09:01 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

OK, just curious. American atheists are largely benign, but having seen militant atheism in action in the USSR, I honestly would rather have the Muslims.


183 posted on 05/26/2014 1:37:39 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine
Have you ever studied what happened in and to the Southern states after they surrendered? Can you find a time that Maine has suffered a similar fate?

What does that have to do with this? The court ruled that the only way a state may legally and peacefully leave the Union is with the consent of the other states. The fact that Maine's constitution says you can leave means nothing if the other states say, "No you can't." Your theocracy is at the mercy of the other states. Better be nice to them.

184 posted on 05/26/2014 3:20:51 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Time will tell.


185 posted on 05/26/2014 4:19:34 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: annalex
Something like 4% of Mainers identify themselves as "evangelicals" (not identical with "born again" Christians but as close as the statistical information gets) compared to about a quarter identify themselves as Catholics.

Yet we are to believe that this 4% will command a 60% majority in 2018 as they vote in a new constitution that renders 96% of the population second class citizens.

186 posted on 05/26/2014 5:07:53 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

From 178 we understand that “Born Again” was probably used with a different intent. I agree that as stated, the appeal has little chance of being effective in Maine.

However, national moods and also regional moods can change. the loss of the American industrial base was especially devastating for Maine’s logging, shipbuilding and fishing industry. I would not be surprised if one day Mainers will begin questioning the liberals and progressives that gave them the current mess. And then an appeal like this, tuned up a bit perhaps, in a state that often feels itself as a bit foreign to the flatlanders down south, might go farther than we now imagine.


187 posted on 05/26/2014 6:07:59 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex; FatherofFive; The_Republic_Of_Maine
It amazes me that what is clearly a restoration of the founding principles of every American state 250 years ago would be today sneered at as "taliban".

It's a problem of false logic. Example:

Pornography store = bad for the community

Baby clothes store = also a store

Therefore,

Baby clothes store = bad for the community (some people are NOT babies!)

188 posted on 05/27/2014 9:16:36 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde
Here is your false logic:

The Taliban form a government based on a religious belief

The RoM forms a government based on a religious belief

Somehow one is wrong and one is right

You are delusional

189 posted on 05/27/2014 12:08:32 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Albion Wilde
It amazes me that what is clearly a restoration of the founding principles of every American state 250 years ago would be today sneered at as "taliban".

You are looking to replace the Constitution with a religion, not restore it. You are ESTABLISHING A RELIGION, which is prohibited by my constitution. YOU ARE THE TALIBAN!

190 posted on 05/27/2014 12:51:16 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

There really are such things as right vs. wrong, good vs. bad, up vs. down. At bottom, that is the issue you are having so much trouble with.


191 posted on 05/27/2014 12:59:29 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde
There really are such things as right vs. wrong

The jihadist says you are wrong, that God is on his side. And he has a book to prove him correct. How do you refute his argument?

192 posted on 05/27/2014 1:04:13 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Albion Wilde
So what are your thoughts on this idea?

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Specifically,

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion

You are not restoring the Constitution. You are destroying it. As the Taliban would.

193 posted on 05/27/2014 1:22:15 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive; Albion Wilde

And what’s even more fun is the statement from their cockeyed Constitution: “This obligation shall never be questioned” (referring to the obligation to be part of the militia).

So, forget the Freedom of Speech too.

People question the current U.S. Constitution every day. We wouldn’t have amendments if the Constitution wasn’t questioned.

The Theocracy of Maine will have neither Freedom of Religion or Freedom of Speech.


194 posted on 05/27/2014 1:43:48 PM PDT by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: ConstantSkeptic
The Theocracy of Maine will have neither Freedom of Religion or Freedom of Speech.

Exactly. They know better. As does the Taliban.

195 posted on 05/27/2014 1:57:21 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive; Albion Wilde
Somehow one is wrong and one is right

I can tell you how. One is false religion and the other is true religion.

196 posted on 05/27/2014 6:05:40 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: FatherofFive
The jihadist says you are wrong, that God is on his side. And he has a book to prove him correct. How do you refute his argument?

Anyone can write anything. Because it was written, and especially because islamic adherents are forced to follow it or die, doesn't make it truth.

197 posted on 05/27/2014 6:32:32 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: FatherofFive
You are looking to replace the Constitution with a religion, not restore it. You are ESTABLISHING A RELIGION, which is prohibited by my constitution.

Actually, I'm not. The RoM group is, and I have no connection to them whatsoever. I merely enjoyed tossing the idea of it around on this thread, until you decided to become hysterical and sling around wild fantasies and call names. I have tried to post reasonable points, but you seem to lack proper debate skills. If you are old enough to be a father of five, you are old enough to do better. I can only conclude that you are actually still in mom's basement. Good luck to you going forward.


YOU ARE THE TALIBAN!

Nope, not that, either. Ta ta.

198 posted on 05/27/2014 6:45:26 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde
I don't understand your vitriol.

You are advocating replacing the US Constitution with a theocracy. That is what the Taliban is trying to do, in a slightly different way. I am sorry for you that you do not have the intellect to see the comparison. You can continue to insult me and call me names - I forgive you.

I pray that God gives you the wisdom to see the noble experiment that is the US Constitution and America. It is a gift from God. You should work to restore the vision of the founders, instead of trying to destroy it.

199 posted on 05/28/2014 4:04:56 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

For the last time, I’m not working for them. You are either drunk while posting, or dyslexic; but most likely a troll. Go away. You are not going to win an argument that only you are having with your imagination, in view that your accusations have wildly misinterpreted what I’ve posted. Go away now.


200 posted on 05/28/2014 5:45:29 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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