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Computerworld - This is the story of an IT worker who was replaced by a worker on an H-1B visa, one of a number of visa holders, mostly from India, who took jobs at this U.S. company. Computerworld is not going to use the worker's name or identify the companies involved to protect the former employee from retaliation.
1 posted on 06/16/2014 7:06:58 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9248996/This_IT_worker_had_to_train_an_H_1B_replacement


2 posted on 06/16/2014 7:07:28 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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I knew someone who worked in the IT department for Barkleys Bank and had to train his replacement. This was about 8 years ago.


3 posted on 06/16/2014 7:14:16 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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The H1 Visa program is a complete scam... it is meant ONLY for finding workers when NONE exist in the US for the job (IE outdated tech that all the folks who do it have retired etc), the idea you can’t find coders in the US is nonsense.

The H1B program is to skilled labor what illegal immigrants are to unskilled.

The very idea that a US employee is training his replacement that is an H1B visa holder should never be happening.


6 posted on 06/16/2014 7:19:44 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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I understand why it is advantageous for a corporation to be able to select employees from the largest possible pool.

What I resent the HELL out of is them LYING about the reason for increasing immigration - that there are no Americans capable doing of the job.

Make your argument but don’t spit on and besmirch Americans to get your way.


8 posted on 06/16/2014 7:29:21 AM PDT by DManA
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This has been happening for years. Back in the 90’s we derided the code produced by Indians as throw away code (and it was) that had to be rewritten every time you had to make a change to it. Later companies got smart and would bring in about a dozen Indian workers to work with the American Coders. There they would learn proper coding techniques and buy into the company ethos. The top 2 or 3 were picked as managers and were sent back to India to “preach the gospel” so to speak and set up coding centers. The quality of code went up. Fact is the American worker cannot compete because there are many eager young Indian coders who will work long hours for little pay.


9 posted on 06/16/2014 7:30:38 AM PDT by crusadersoldier
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I understand why it is advantageous for a corporation to be able to select employees from the largest possible pool.

What I resent the HELL out of is them LYING about the reason for increasing immigration - that there are no Americans capable doing of the job.

Make your argument but don’t spit on and besmirch Americans to get your way.


11 posted on 06/16/2014 7:36:44 AM PDT by DManA
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Harley motorcycles this. They fired their in house IT and went with a contracting service notorious for H1B workers. The company offered some of the old guys their jobs back for ridiculously low wages.

Harley... pretending to care about being American.


12 posted on 06/16/2014 7:38:12 AM PDT by drunknsage
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Many governmental agencies are abusing the H1B process. I contracted at AAFES (Army Air Force Exchange Service) where many H1B-ers from India where treated like crap, were essentially salves to their contracting offices, and performed about as well as expected.

Every time I hear Bill Gates or a Fortune 100 company demand more H1Bs, I translate it as ‘we need more money and screw the American economy’.


16 posted on 06/16/2014 7:54:19 AM PDT by pikachu (After Monday and Tuesday, even the calender goes W T F !)
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Does anyone know what company this is?


20 posted on 06/16/2014 8:15:47 AM PDT by privatedrive
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Here is the truth... the Indian companies are exploiting the H1B visa program not by bringing over a single worker to replace an American but using the position to cycle through many IT workers. They do this by sending a worker here from India for one to two years then they go home. The American worker loses their job but the Indian worker makes 2 to 3 times more with an American Salary than with an Indian salary. Its rare to find an Indian worker who stays longer than 2 years unless they are management. Of course for certain things, its federal law that only a US Citizen can do so these companies based in India will hire a US Citizen but they will not give those people any career advancement because those jobs are only reserved for Indian employees of that company. A couple of years back it was under the radar but a well-known Indian company was sued because of this tactic. It is well known in India but very few people see it happening here. People complain that an foreign worker is taking their job, but its more that a position is being filed by many foreign workers who get cycled through the position.

I have worked for an multi billion international Indian company like this and there were major issues with their code that I would consistently bring to my lead who was Indian. I think at one time we had to rollback one integration that went on for several months before the Indian lead would finally admit there was a problem. Another data was not getting through and the Indian worker refused to own up to the mistake. I had to raise the issue up the chain of command finally to an American PM. Another time I was spending three to four hours a day with a worker in India who was supposed to know how to do basic SQL commands and I was training him on how to do it. I once sent him back the script and told him to fix it. He told me to fix it. I knew more about how to do the job but I was getting paid less than he was.

Another time there was a major memory leak because resources kept getting opened and but never closed. That’s basic coding 101 people! Open a resource, close it.

I don’t frown down upon these people for wanting to have a better way of life for themselves but I do frown upon it at my expense and every other American’s expense.


22 posted on 06/16/2014 8:49:43 AM PDT by zaxtres
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We already have a massive population of illegal aliens from places like India. They overstay their visas then apply for a Taxpayer Identification Number. They get one, then a driver’s license, and then can always apply for jobs.


27 posted on 06/16/2014 10:50:35 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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what would happen if the U.S. government were to impose restrictions on the H-1B visa and raise the cost of using it, and whether that could change the economics of offshoring and encourage more insourcing.

The cost of using an H-1B to an employer should be whatever the displaced US worker was earning per year, for each and every year the employer uses the H-1B worker, plus whatever the employer is paying directly for the H-1B worker.

Why? Because that is what the employer's actions are costing the US economy.

There are more available US citizens with the required degrees and skills than there are jobs available, yet the jobs are going to foreign workers, and for higher salaries than the US workers they are replacing. The quality of work is no better; the knowledge, skills, and abilities are no better. Someone has to be subsidizing this economic slaughter of US workers, and government is the only such entity I know of that subsidizes such backward, destructive policies.

29 posted on 06/16/2014 11:16:31 AM PDT by meadsjn
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