Posted on 07/18/2014 3:08:57 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
You have to have a conscience before something like this can be on it.
That leaves out Vladimir Putin.
Ras’Putin lives..
So there’s already been an investigation?
It was only a matter of time until the insurgents jumped the shark. I think this party is over, not even the Putin pushers on FR must see that the rebels are puppets.
“Barack Obama accused Russia of supplying arms to the separatist rebels” ..............
POT, meet Kettle.
No, I put this possible tragedy squarely on the hands of a failed Anerican leadership. Putin is a cheap opportunist who gets away with murder because no one has the balls to stand up to him-
Ping.
Heart wrenching pictures, from The Daily Mail, who has the guts to put faces and actual lives to these souls. God bless them all, and special blessings for the young. Taking down this plane was an act of pure evil.
Every war invariably had a silent instigating third party benefactor. It would serve us today to keep that fact in mind.
“POT, meet Kettle.”
Yea, It’s different when we did the same thing in Seria and for that matter Mexico. /s
This is the second reference to “naked victims” I’ve read. I can understand clothes being burnt off, but this seems like more. Just me?
The actions of BJ Bill Jefferson in Serbia (which were horrific, brutal, and reckless) can not be ascribed to the American people any more than we could ascribe the actions of these perpetrators to Russia at large.
This low-level civil war is a power struggle between the European Union and Moscow, and McLame/Obama involvement was unwise to begin with. Now the nation is in chaos, something like this was bound to happen, but the circumstances surrounding it are bizarre.
1) Why was this area not declared a no-fly zone by either the Ukrainian government themselves (who were conducting aerial operations in the region), or our own government, let alone the Europeans? As dumb as flying over Mosul or Syria.
2) Why did the pilot divert the flight into a warzone to avoid mild weather because he felt ‘uncomfortable’ (another idiot pilot from Malaysia Airlines)
3) Whoever manned this BUK System (if it is that), had to be very skilled, so who pulled the trigger?
The third point is the most puzzling. From what I have heard the BUK System interrogates transponders it picks up for flight information which it relays to the ground crew. Commerical jets give out different code than military jets, so why was the missile fired?
Presumable other commercial flights had flown over this region that day and in days prior, so why were they not shot down?
This is not a system that can be operated by a rookie, so if the separatists fired it, it would have to be either a Russian special forces operator or a defecting member of the Ukrainian military. Street thugs would not know where to start.
Somebody operating this system knew what they were doing, got the information relayed that it was a commercial jet, and chose to fire. But why? There is no motive here, and I can’t see how the ‘accident’ story fits unless people were drunk.
The event is tragic, especially since many many children seem to be among the dead. Its made even more distressing by the clownery of Obama giving 40n seconds to the incident before joking about Biden.
“...unless people were drunk.”
Well, we are talking about Russians.
It appears that we have all forgotten about the Aegis incident of Feb 28, 1994 ...
USS Vincennes mistakenly shot down Iran Air Flight 655 Killing all aboard. Vincennes was a state of the art Aegis class cruiser with advanced tracking radar.
Regards,
GtG
Very true
Thank you for a refreshing insertion of sanity into a thread that inevitably will act like a flame to the more hysterical moths. Your third point is, indeed, one of the more intriguing mysteries here. And given how these things generally go (early reports are almost invariably false), I wonder how accurate our assumptions are on things like the altitude of the plane, and the capabilities of other AA systems that are strewn throughout Ukraine.
But the fact that a plane was flying over an active civil war/separatist movement is just mind-boggling. Going by the adage to never look for conspiracy where stupidity will suffice, I have to think it was just a monumentally poor decision.
This is the second reference to naked victims Ive read. I can understand clothes being burnt off, but this seems like more. Just me?
When people are thrown from their airplane into a 500 mph slipstream, often their clothes are ripped from their bodies.
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