New video shows police offered no medical help to unresponsive Staten Island dad Eric Garner

NY DAILY NEWS ^ | Juky 20,2014 12:42 AM | BY Corinne Lestch , Rocco Parascandola , Larry Mcshane

[Cap'n Crunch]

Pardon me, Joyce foundation, not Joyce Society.

[Leaning Right]

Many young cops do treat the public poorly

That's an interesting observation. In my younger days, I worked in university security. The university was located in a big city. I had a lot of interaction with the city beat cops. Most of them were older men, veterans of WW II.

And I believe that they would have all behaved as poster FBD would have. If Garner wasn't doing anything grossly wrong at that moment, they would have just said hello, and left it at that.

Something certainly has changed here.

[LevinFan]

“Pantaleo, an eight-year veteran, was placed on modified duty Saturday as cops and the Staten Island district attorney investigated the case.

Pantaleo was stripped of his gun and his shield and assigned to work desk duty.

The police union immediately denounced the move as “completely unwarranted.”

-We can always count on the Police Union, can’t we? :-/ “

Ya, seriously. A man is dead at the hands of a cop. But the Police Union calls these minimal steps unwarranted? Anyone else would likely be arguing for BAIL, under such actions.

This attitude goes to show what police unions think of the citizens that cops serve. We’re worthless in their eyes.

Maybe a few more memorials to cop killers might start getting the attention of LE that people are not satisfied with what is going on.

[Chode]

The boys in blue obviously had a charge to arrest him on.

question 1: how much do you think it costs to arrest him, manpower, gas/use of vehicle for transportation to station, booking, feeding him, then more transportation to and from court, Judge and DA salary, court time, all for at most 50cents in lost tax revenue for ONE smoke

question 2: do you think it's money well spent in a brokeass city when cops are told NOT to arrest people for less than one ounce of pot???

a little discretion was in order there, don't you think?

or is it even remotely possible the cop was just being a jerk?

[LevinFan]

“You can bet the autopsy will be saying it was anything but the chokehold.
Anything the remove culpability from officer mchokeslam.”

The coroner will product the report he is told to produce, even if it completely ignores the facts of what happened.

That is why a city or department investigating one of their own is an obvious conflict of interests. Actually, there is no conflict, except with the truth.
The closer you get to the source, the less likely you are to get a real investigation or prosecution. Internal Investigation is an oxymoron.

[butterdezillion]

There are already 2 different stories - one claiming he was fine until after he got in the ambulance, which is an absurd claim. If any of these cops performed CPR on him when he went unresponsive and lost a heartbeat, this story would have been told a LOT differently.

Picking through his pockets? That doesn’t seem like something you’d do on a person you were performing CPR on until the EMT’s could arrive...

[Balding_Eagle]

Yeah, I didn’t think you could provide anything.

Now, as to my assertion about cops..........

[Balding_Eagle]

Well, there’s your mistake right there, thinking John Kerry is a conservative.

[willyd]

You forgot to add being deprived of oxygen from the choke hold to your list of causes...you must be from Jersey.

[willyd]

You are exactly right... he was having a heart attack and not one of those officers chose to render aid. They are trained professionals and just stood by and let that guy die when it became clear he was having a heart attack brought on by the rear naked choke applied by that over zealous MMA wannabe police officer.

[Shannon]

Your point is moot. The only thing that matters is that a banned maneuver (choke-hold) was applied which led to him being unable to breathe and not only did he die, they stood around and nobody rendered aid. Unless everyone at the scene is charged & fired, the changes are high that it'll happen again. Fire & charge them all and it'll never repeat.

[Shannon]

Cap'n Crunch, you are defending the murder of this man way too vigorously. Do you work for the NYPD?

By the way, after reading your comments, I'm getting the creeps wondering where your screen name comes from.

[ZULU]

I’m not talking individuals. I am talking the system.
We will have to wait and see what the investigation shows.

[raybbr]

This guy died of a heart attack from exertion, obesity, struggling and having those other cops on top of him.

Can you share the autopsy report you apparently have read?

Sorry haters...

So, to express disgust at a cop, actually a group of cops, who kill a man for a misdemeanor crime is "hating". Got it.

The obverse is then that you are a "cop lover". I read about cops killing dogs, beating up women, men and children, breaking into wrong houses, treating the people they are supposed to protect with contempt and many other militant actions pretty much on a daily basis. Therefore one can infer from your "loving" is that you approve of what they are doing. Even if you express the notion that there are some "bad cops" and they should be punished you're accusation of "haters" who express any rancor at their actions negates that.

[Darksheare]

It always is, and it shouldn’t be.

[Moonman62]

This may interest you:

A man who died after a New York City police officer took him to the ground in a chokehold appeared to have little damage to his neck and trachea, according to preliminary autopsy results, a law enforcement source said, but that may not be enough to keep him from being disciplined or even facing criminal charges.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/nypd-cops-chokehold-caused-injury-mans-throat/story?id=24640347

[Cap'n Crunch]

Thank you. Gonna be a heart attack.

[Cap'n Crunch]

Actually I’m tired of people on this website who paint all cops with the JBT paint brush when it’s not true. Haters.

And a preliminary autopsy report evidently shows no damage to his trachea. As I knew it wouldn’t.

[Cap'n Crunch]

‘The man’ shouldn’t have resisted arrest. He’d be alive today to file his harassment lawsuit.

Right? Even ABC news recognized that he resisted arrest.

[Cap'n Crunch]

Brother I worked with cops from that era. They were the same as cops today, there were good ones and bad ones. Everybody and their brother didn’t have a video camera rolling back then. Some of them told me the stories of what they did themselves. The story of the nice old street cop back in the day may sound nostalgic but I know better.

People are people since the first day.