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Poll: No agreement on how to pay for highways
Associated Press ^ | Aug. 5, 2014 9:03 AM EDT | Joan Lowy and Jennifer Agiesta

Posted on 08/05/2014 8:18:27 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Small wonder Congress has kept federal highway and transit programs teetering on the edge of insolvency for years, unable to find a politically acceptable long-term source of funds. The public can’t make up its mind on how to pay for them either. […]

Among those who drive places multiple times per week, 62 percent say the benefits outweigh the costs. Among those who drive less than once a week or not at all, 55 percent say the costs of road improvement are worthwhile.

Yet a majority of all Americans—58 percent—oppose raising federal gasoline taxes to fund transportation projects such as the repair, replacement or expansion of roads and bridges. Only 14 percent support an increase. And by a better than 2-to-1 margin, Americans oppose having private companies pay for construction of new roads and bridges in exchange for the right to charge tolls. Moving to a usage tax based on how many miles a vehicle drives also draws more opposition than support—40 percent oppose it, while 20 percent support it. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Travel
KEYWORDS: fhwa; gastax; highaytrustfund; tollroads
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To: dfwgator

Highway funds should pay for interstate highways. If the military wants to use them, they will. Just like they will use secondary roads if they wish.


21 posted on 08/05/2014 8:51:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: thackney

Hoping against hope in the face of the evidence of failure of the overall policy?

Takes private morality to create an accountable government too.

And local toll roads do work. No need for eminent domain, because society and roads have always coexisted; the free market can determine what roads go where. (Unless you think that abominations like the Cross-Bronx Expressway are actually good things? Not once you drive on it.)


22 posted on 08/05/2014 8:51:44 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: dfwgator

I never bought that Eisenhower canard. All the German Reichsautobahn network served to accomplish was a quicker penetration of Allied forces to Berlin.


23 posted on 08/05/2014 8:52:51 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: cripplecreek

The largest public works project in the US is a socialistic failure. It’ll always be a bottomless pit even if you allegedly put the funds back to what the liars in DC claimed they would be for; because you cannot trust the government.


24 posted on 08/05/2014 8:54:23 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

The states should create and maintain their own roads without subsidies from the Feds.This will also prevent the states from overbuilding highways that are not needed.

As far as private companies running our highways and roadways that would be a non-starter with most of the states I’m sure.

I have heard of No privately maintained highway system anywhere in the U.S. So far.Most of the time they a quasi-public organizations like the M.T.A. In New York City and New York State.

Just look at the condition of their roads.All of that money gets transferred to airports,Railroads,ports and subway facilities while the roads and highways go to hell.


25 posted on 08/05/2014 8:55:10 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: puppypusher

That’s still socialism.

Isn’t it bad enough that the states took over the public transit systems, in just about all cases because they wanted control over them? Why should they be trusted with the road systems?


26 posted on 08/05/2014 8:56:59 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Moonman62

That’s endemic to government-initiated projects, so the only way to do that is to get government out of the way.


27 posted on 08/05/2014 8:58:28 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
And local toll roads do work.

Not if you tried to do it on every>/b> road.

I use a local toll road to drive to work every day. It cost me about 50¢/mile. Most people don't want to see that for every single mile they drive.

No need for eminent domain, because society and roads have always coexisted

Coexisted and worked well are two very different things.

We don't agree at all.

28 posted on 08/05/2014 9:02:02 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

58 percent—oppose raising federal gasoline taxes to fund transportation projects such as the repair, replacement or expansion of roads and bridges.

Was gonna say.....maybe that’s because they know that’s not what the taxes are used for, and they wonder where the rest of the money already collected has gone.


29 posted on 08/05/2014 9:04:03 AM PDT by sheana
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To: thackney

You don’t know that.

If it’s a trade-off between no fuel tax and tolls, the toll would be the winner.

Toll roads in the past did not have a tollhouse every mile, so that’s an absurd inference with no basis in history.


30 posted on 08/05/2014 9:04:57 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: sheana
The federal government admits that they do not administer the fuel tax as if it were a per-use fee. The money goes straight into the general fund, and gets transferred to the alleged “trust fund” on paper. The money, therefore, could be literally from any source.
31 posted on 08/05/2014 9:07:06 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
You don’t know that.

Please tell me more describing what I don't know.

Toll roads in the past did not have a tollhouse every mile

Some did. And the ones I drive don't, they charge larger amounts every few miles.

If each individual road is going to have a toll, including roads separated by only hundreds of feet, please explain how that would work.

32 posted on 08/05/2014 9:09:42 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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33 posted on 08/05/2014 9:12:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai

I was talking in generalities.


34 posted on 08/05/2014 9:16:19 AM PDT by sheana
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To: thackney

Toll roads only work on a very limited basis like passenger rail and the definition of “working” is shaky at best. Not all roads are created equally, nor should they be.

I live on a dirt street, which leads to a paved street which leads to paved and dirt country roads, which lead to a state highway which lead to interstates. My street only has two houses on it and would never produce enough revenue to even bother with. (personally I’d like to have it declared abandoned by the county)

The problem is misappropriation. There is more than enough money for interstates if that’s where the money were going.


35 posted on 08/05/2014 9:17:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: thackney
Which toll roads had a tollhouse every mile?

Rhetoric in defense of socialism is not going to help.

We wouldn’t have much of the road network in the USA if not for toll road companies. It was the early 20th Century when state governments surreptitiously took over these road networks, with the federal government taking their cue from them.
36 posted on 08/05/2014 9:19:08 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: cripplecreek

The only limits to the basis are government intervention. Passenger rail cannot be broken into by private companies anymore thanks to incredibly complex regulation; and thanks to too much government intervention in the highway system, road tolling becomes a double-hit economically on the user.


37 posted on 08/05/2014 9:20:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: cripplecreek
The problem is misappropriation.

Greatly agree!

38 posted on 08/05/2014 9:34:13 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Olog-hai
Rhetoric in defense of socialism

We don't agree on the role of government in this area. I have experienced owning property where the road was private property and 90% of the owners considered it someone else's responsibility to maintain.

I currently have property with about a mile of private drive, as one of the two largest property owners, I and the larger owner are planning to have the road upgraded to parish standards so that the parish will accept ownership of it.

To suggest all roads should be private and government should have no role in their development and maintenance is to be ignorant of history.

39 posted on 08/05/2014 9:39:18 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Olog-hai
How much is spent on the bloated bureaucracies running this system? Their health care, their pensions, the do nothing jobs that get filled with cronies?

I'll bet half of the current taxes paid don't even see a road or a highway

40 posted on 08/05/2014 9:43:11 AM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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