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Investment & Finance Thread (week Aug. 24 - Aug. 30 edition)
Daily investment & finance thread ^ | Aug. 24, 2014 | Freeper Investors

Posted on 08/24/2014 2:36:41 PM PDT by expat_panama

Happy weekend investors!!

This week's thread will have to settle for a lame blog at the top due to a severe case of writer's block.  Topics considered were a weekly recap but here's the week in stocks and here's the week in metals.  Another idea was chat about the Fed meeting at Jackson Hole but they're just wrapping it up and the Fed website isn't quite updated.  Another idea is a resume of all the good news & bad news about today's econ condx, but that either keeps changing or it's already been rehashed on these threads by better brains than mine.  Yet another tack is beginning a discussion about how we want this thread to go; my take is I like it just fine and don't want it to change.

Speaking of better brains, the important thing is the thread continues; the beginning blog (spectacular as it has been) is secondary...

This is the thread where folks swap ideas on savings and investment --here's a list of popular investing links that freepers have posted here and tomorrow morning we'll go on with our--

Open invitation continues always for idea-input for the thread, this being a joint effort works well.   Keywords: financial, WallStreet, stockmarket, economy.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: economy; financial; stockmarket; wallstreet
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To: expat_panama

I did not know that about China so that was a surprise. For the US I think immigration and the Millennials are driving. The Millennials are the largest cohort in US history.


81 posted on 08/28/2014 5:52:06 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Can’t get a responce on the secure https for dropbox :( You got another place to xfer the pptx?


82 posted on 08/28/2014 5:54:12 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Wyatt's Torch

China’s in SUPER bad way w/ demographics because of their insane leftist population laws. Most populations are half/half men/women but China’s got 30 million extra men. Result is fewer reproducing families to an aging population.


83 posted on 08/28/2014 5:59:29 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
My guess is that U.S. strength is largely because of immigration, both in terms of population and culture.

Huh????????????????

We agree on a lot of things on your thread, but if you think our economy right now is helped by the illegal hoard, you are sorely mistaken. The taxing on our subsidized medical welfare systems in border states alone is adversely impacting beyond what you would believe. Try another theory.

84 posted on 08/28/2014 6:00:38 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Everything I needed to know about Islam was written on 11 Sep 2001)
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To: BipolarBob

Couple of talking heads at CNBC yesterday stated that if Fed reacts with interest rate jolt that market could correct 30-60%. Very believable.


85 posted on 08/28/2014 6:03:08 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Everything I needed to know about Islam was written on 11 Sep 2001)
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To: expat_panama

China has been relaxing the one-child policy lately.

If both parents are themselves an “Only child”, then that couple is allowed to two have two children.

They see the problem they have created.


86 posted on 08/28/2014 6:07:27 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Can’t get a responce

got it ---tx!

87 posted on 08/28/2014 6:15:47 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: catfish1957
U.S. strength is largely because of immigration, both in terms of population and culture.

Huh????????????????  We agree on a lot of things on your thread, but if you think our economy right now is helped by the illegal hoard

LOL!!   We were talking population/demographics not economics.  We don't have to like things but we do need to know if they're there.   Let's agree that the U.S. is good and that a growing U.S. population is good.  Not sure if we can agree but I'm seeing immigrants have been doing a better job of reproducing than the native Americans:

Let's get at the facts and afterward we can decide if we like it or not.

88 posted on 08/28/2014 6:33:38 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: SomeCallMeTim
If both parents are themselves an “Only child”, then that couple is allowed to two have two children.  They see the problem they have created.

Interesting. That's still usually how extreme leftists think though, first they invade and take control of people's personal lives and then when everything falls apart the solution is always more detailed regulations.  Kind of like the way  the U.S. left prefers temporary targeted tax credits and not just simply cutting tax rates-- of course they still call it 'tax relief'...

89 posted on 08/28/2014 6:42:52 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

I’m seeing immigrants have been doing a better job of reproducing than the native Americans:

Off Topic, BUT did not a Rabbi named Kahane once say that bout muzzys in Israel ??

Course, story is NOT over/done here, nor there.....


90 posted on 08/28/2014 7:12:03 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: litehaus
...immigrants have been doing a better job of reproducing than the native Americans...  ...Off Topic, BUT did not a Rabbi named Kahane once say that bout muzzys in Israel ??

Not that far off topic, and it also relates to hearing libs say homosexual pairs are just as good as marriages because homosexuals are people too.  The fact is that homosexuals don't reproduce, and being good is not enough.   We've got to be good and reproduce because without reproduction all that supposed goodness is dead.  Useless.

91 posted on 08/28/2014 9:04:28 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Wyatt's Torch
in the presentation she said that the Fed gov't's % of the GDP's been falling --so I checked:

It's true.  OK, so drops in fed spending's been because of massive defense cuts, but just the same I'm wondering why these numbers seem do differ from Fed outlay stats.  Must be a very limited definition of fed spending in the GDP.

92 posted on 08/28/2014 9:39:54 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
Another "economy is improving" datapoint:


93 posted on 08/28/2014 11:42:20 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Another "economy is improving" datapoint:

Real estate is another one of those "better than the bottom but still not recovered" things.

Not only that, on average Americans now still owe more on their real estate than they've amassed in equity.   Then again the average U.S. household owns $198,000 in real estate for which they still owe the bank $104,000.  So much for simple averages.

94 posted on 08/28/2014 5:47:26 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

True but one of the things uninformed people talk about is “all the foreclosures” when reality is that REO is down to 2007 levels. That’s good.


95 posted on 08/28/2014 6:20:24 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: expat_panama

When does that new canal get done down in your neck of the woods? Something tells me it’s gonna be busy.

California drivers brace for costly new gas tax

“Estimates of the cost of the tax vary. The California Air Resources Board, the Golden State’s premier anti-pollution agency, predicts the new tax will raise gasoline prices from 20 cents to $1.30 per gallon. A prominent state senator who helped author the bill estimated the cost at 40 cents a gallon. Environmental activists downplay the cost, but hail the impact.”

Freerepublic thread here
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3198245/posts


96 posted on 08/28/2014 8:14:06 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

I goofed up. Here is the direct link

California drivers brace for costly new gas tax
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/27/california-hidden-gas-tax/


97 posted on 08/28/2014 8:17:51 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: A Cyrenian; abb; Abigail Adams; abigail2; AK_47_7.62x39; Aliska; Aquamarine; ...

-and a lovely 3-day weekend to all!  Yesterday's uncertainty ended solid for everyone w/ gains in metals and stocks shaking off a scare.  Today futures traders are running from metals into stocks, we'll see how that survives today's data dump:

Personal Income
Personal Spending
PCE Prices - Core
Chicago PMI
Michigan Sentiment - Final
 

Other interesting stuff:


98 posted on 08/29/2014 4:06:30 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
When does that new canal get done down in your neck of the woods?

lol!  Folks where I'm staying care about the canal about as much as folks in Houston care about New York.  You got me curious theough, so I looked it up:

In July 2012, however, it was announced that the expansion project had fallen six months behind schedule, pushing the opening date back from October 2014 to April 2015. In October 2011, the Panama Canal Authority announced the completion of the third phase of excavation for the Pacific access channel.  (from here; more here)

Major construction projects are always problematic, but in fairness this job seems to be going better than Delessips' canal even though we're now moving more dirt and spending more money.

99 posted on 08/29/2014 4:25:09 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Wyatt's Torch
the things uninformed people talk about is “all the foreclosures”

lol!!  --or 'bank failures' or 'church burnings'.   When something so rare has two instead of one all we get is headlines about "IT'S DOUBLED WE'RE DOOOMED!!!"

100 posted on 08/29/2014 5:38:44 AM PDT by expat_panama
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