“The coroner said that an official cause of death was pending.”
Seriously?
How in the world this instructor thought it was a good idea to let that little girl fire that weapon is way beyond me.
“it will take several weeks for blood-toxicology test results to be complete”
What, they can’t bump it up to the front of the line for something like this? Sounds like BS to me.
I bet there was a line of lawyers out there waiting for the victims family to appear. Especially the anti gun advocates along with the usual ambulance chaser seeking to find a flaw in the range’s policy and rules.
The instructor (God rest his soul) used improper technique. I have no problem letting a 9 y/o shoot an FA weapon......... as long as there is adult control of the gun.
Imagine the liberal version of family speak after this event.
Hate
Lawsuits
Gun control
Good thing this family is not liberal.
There is no such thing as an accident. It’s all premeditated carelessness. The idea of giving a nine year old a fully automatic weapon is bordering on lunacy. Okay, so I was nine when I got my first firearm but it was a .22 single shot.
He wasn’t killed by a 9 year old child. He was killed by his own stupidity.
Probably the people most conserned with this accident ARE
those that could care less about the carnage in Chigago and Detroit..
AND the cartoon goings on in Furgeson, Mo..
and have strange ideas about the O.J. Simpson legalized murder..
And wouldn’t know an Uzi from a Guzi...
It was a foolish thing to do, and it exacted a heavy punishment on him for it. Not all foolishness does, and sometimes even greater foolishness isn’t punished so severely.
I’d like to think I wouldn’t have done such a thing as this but I try to be careful not to be so arrogant to think that I’m incapable of foolishness myself. But I know better than that. I know I’ve done foolish things. I and those around me were fortunate to survive my foolishness. Sometimes the only difference between fun and foolishness is hindsight.
If the little girl had successfully squeezed off a burst and squealed with delight there would still be a thread here about it but most of the comments would be completely different.
And in a related story:
http://nypost.com/2014/08/30/teen-killed-in-crash-while-driving-friends-lamborghini/
From the article it says that
“...the shooting range says it’s already changed its regulations since the incident. Shooters will be required to be at least five feet tall or 12 years of age.”
I would have to agree with that. Anyone less than those requirements should be only shooting single shot and semi-auto firearms.
Here is a video of an approximately 12 year old girl firing full auto .223 at the beginning. Don’t know what rifle it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f8VmJRuBFY
Another quote:
“Cohen’s business, for example, is installing a tethering system that will prevent machine guns from riding upward after firing - the same motion that killed the gun instructor this week.”
This would be good for beginners to use.
The kid needs to be taken away from the parents.
The parents need to be charged with something.
It seems like nobody knows how to raise children these days.
I don’t know what the solution is. Parents should be responsible for how they raise their children. They have screwed up the country and are continuing to do so.
I’ve read multiple threads on FR about this tragedy. As a class III Uzi owner and father of two daughters that have fired full auto Uzi’s at this same age, I must break my silence. This was not an Uzi which weighs 8 pounds empty, fires from the open bolt and has a rate of fire of approx 600 rounds per minute, but from the wire stock visible in the video it appears to be a Mini-Uzi weighing just under 6 pounds with a 950 rds per min rate of fire. I would never allow my daughters to fire such a weapon full auto with more than 3 rounds in the mag. But a full size, slower rate of fire UZI is perfectly controllable by anyone able to shoulder the firearm. Freepers are correct that this tragedy could have been averted with common sense that this was too much gun for this child and mistakes were made on the firing line, but get the facts right. This was not an UZI but a lighter, hotter MINI-UZI. BTW, the Micro-Uzi weighs 3.3 pounds with a 1250 rd per min rate of fire... I won’t even fire that full auto.
When I was in Marine boot camp, extraordinary precautions were taken to train us on how to operate an M-16 and we were mostly 18-year-old men. We had a full week of "snapping in" where we spent hours with the unloaded M-16 in various firing positions before we were even allowed to fire a live round. We also had days of training sessions on range safety, ballistics, how to handle recoil and all of that.
So speaking as a highly trained Marine, it is insulting to see this "Bullets and Burgers" roadside joint treat the firing of machines guns so cavalierly and irresponsibly. I went through weeks of basic training to even get my hands on a loaded semi-automatic weapon and this reckless outfit puts the same type of weapon in the hands of a 9-year-old girl for the purchase of an "adventure" package that includes a burger and fries. It is so stupid when you consider the recoil from such a weapon can put a Marine on the ground when not handled properly.
I feel badly that the 9-year-old girl and the families (of both the girl and the victim) have to live with this the rest of their lives. As well, the gun grabbers now have plenty more ammo in which to attempt to deny the rest of our our Second Amendment rights. All because common sense is apparently in short supply in the sands of Nevada.
What were his skill sets ? What were his Certification in Firearms Safety ? Was he a Certified Firearms Instructor ? Was he just a person with male genes ? Was he a drunk ? Was he on psychotropic drugs ? Who claims he was a firearms instructor ?
A negligent discharge is caused by either ignorance or carelessness. The person can be considered ignorant, if they have not been trained. They are considered careless, if they disregard their training.
Always keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot Always keep the gun unloaded until ready to use
There is no such thing as an accidental discharge.
Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction
The instructor pressed Darwin for proof of his theory on two fronts:
Standing beside someone he was instructing.
Handing a full auto to a child, who hadn’t the experience to manage the firearm.