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Statutory rape victim reportedly forced to pay child support
q13fox ^

Posted on 09/02/2014 10:08:47 PM PDT by chessplayer

PHOENIX — A man who slept with a 20-year-old woman when he was 14 — and didn’t learn he was a father until eight years later — is now being forced to pay child support, the Arizona Republic reports.

Olivas, who said he was confused and going through a rough patch at that time of his life time, said the two went their separate ways after the encounter.

Arizona law says a child younger than 15 cannot consent to sexual relations with an adult under any circumstance.

All of it was put behind him, he thought, until two years ago he was served papers from the state demanding he pay child support.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: blackiswhite; childabuse; childsupport; crime; familycourt; moralabsolutes; rape; statuatoryrape; statutoryrape
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree with you on that. The DCS departments the social workers, they should all have a Father’s right’s advocate office in them. And they should be staffed equally by heterosexual men and women, not perverts.

Again the presumption of equal custody laws when they are finally passed by all states will help a lot.


61 posted on 09/02/2014 11:42:51 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
I'm pretty sure the 14-year-old girl who was raped, is not financially responsible for the child she births as the product of rape, as she has the option of putting the child up for adoption—and babies are highly adoptable—as well as more vulgar options that are legally available. Though she may (and probably will) take the responsibility upon herself to raise the child, does not mean that she is legally required to do so. As such, how should the 14-year-old boy who was raped be financially responsible for the child his assailant births (through the product of her own illegal action) when he doesn't even have the option of adoption, et al (esp. since, in this case, he didn't even know about, and as I previously mentioned, is legally recognized as being unable to take such responsibilities upon himself.)

I cannot see how the child has a legal father in this case, yes, a biological father, but legally the raped boy cannot be the father. The two are distinct concepts.

62 posted on 09/02/2014 11:58:58 PM PDT by John Robinson (HTML::Parse: Skipping unknown tag sarcasm)
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To: All

I have a male cousin who was 14 when he married a 19 year old. That was in 1968 and they’re still married. My, how times have changed.


63 posted on 09/03/2014 12:00:45 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

“Back then he was probably bragging about it to everyone he could.”

Yeah, 14 year-olds say and do all kinds of dumb things. That’s because they’re children.


Except when they murder someone. Then we consider them adults and want them tried as adults.


64 posted on 09/03/2014 12:02:33 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: DannyTN

Furthermore, the law needs to applied equally, there are cases of child support judgments against men who were not the biological fathers of the children they raised, but yet they were accepted as the father of the children. Similarly, what do you do in the case of a sperm-donor operating through a sperm-bank whose sperm sires a child, he is the biological father, should he be financially responsible for his child?


65 posted on 09/03/2014 12:02:46 AM PDT by John Robinson (HTML::Parse: Skipping unknown tag sarcasm)
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To: chessplayer

That’s because at a certain age, children should be expected to know that murder has dire consequences, and that certain assaults will likely result in death. Young children simply do not grasp the concept of the permanence of death, therefore you won’t see a 4-year-old on trial even if it can be proven the child intended specifically to murder, not so for a 14-year-old murderer.


66 posted on 09/03/2014 12:20:22 AM PDT by John Robinson (HTML::Parse: Skipping unknown tag sarcasm)
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To: DannyTN
It was statuatory rape, but unless she forced him, it was still his decision, even if he was only 14.

You seem to be unclear on the concept of statutory rape.

67 posted on 09/03/2014 12:31:54 AM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: agere_contra

yeppers


68 posted on 09/03/2014 12:34:51 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nice to someone who READS the article!


69 posted on 09/03/2014 12:38:23 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: DannyTN

Bullcrap, he was fourteen!


70 posted on 09/03/2014 12:39:31 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Agree with you...the woman was a predator...child resulted from her crime.


71 posted on 09/03/2014 12:43:44 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: antceecee

Yeah, let’s make her child victim pay her hundreds of thousands of dollars.


72 posted on 09/03/2014 12:45:09 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: DannyTN

Just admit you are a complete jack@ss in your idiotic responses regarding this story...please...redeem yourself.


73 posted on 09/03/2014 12:46:56 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No he should not. She is the adult and she is responsible.


74 posted on 09/03/2014 12:52:41 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: chessplayer
Already posted here:Rape Victim Forced To Pay Child Support
75 posted on 09/03/2014 1:28:00 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Jonty30

He didn’t learn of the baby until the papers were served when she was six years old.


76 posted on 09/03/2014 1:29:17 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: DannyTN

He was raped you douche


77 posted on 09/03/2014 1:59:39 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: chessplayer

And that makes rape ok?


78 posted on 09/03/2014 2:00:50 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: DannyTN

Statutory rape is forced.


79 posted on 09/03/2014 2:02:56 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: DannyTN

He was a child when he was raped.


80 posted on 09/03/2014 2:06:16 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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