[Black Agnes]

I do read my own posts. Perhaps if you’d bothered to read all the links.

Conclusions are a mixed bag. Which doesn’t mean they don’t work. Or that they work.

But there are pages and pages of studies on different vitamins. Some of them with pretty decent positive results. D3 for example. K2 is another one being used to reverse aortic stenosis.

I’ll say this. I am pushing 50 and have megadosed vitamin C since I was seven. I have no crows feet or little wrinkles around my mouth. I have never had any cosmetic procedures either. No kidney stones either for that matter. I didn’t get stretch marks when I was pregnant either. Even with the pregnancy that was so ‘large’ I couldn’t adjust the steering wheel enough at the end to even drive my car.

And I worked R&D and have seen shenanigans. Big shenanigans.

[freedumb2003]

>>I do read my own posts. Perhaps if you’d bothered to read all the links.

Conclusions are a mixed bag. Which doesn’t mean they don’t work. Or that they work.<<

So, you have definitive studies that say these may or may not work.

Which was my original point.

[greeneyes]

Do you by any chance know of vitamin brands that are not made in China, and known to be of high quality?

[caveat emptor]

I am pushing 50 and have megadosed vitamin C since I was seven

I'm curious. If you don't mind saying, what's your "megadose"? I'd guess you take it orally. I take 2 or 3 grams a day, down from 10-12 for years after reading and checking on a convincing claim by Gary Taubes (!) that people can't process more than that - don't remember details and can't find with internet search. At 77 my skin and heart (recent echo-cardiagram) are in good shape. A few other things not so much - due to post-op screw ups a year and a half ago by an arrogant surgeon and a ignorant post-op nurse.

IMO there is big potential for avoiding heart disease (arteriosclerosis) and other collagen related issues with some sort of Vitamin C therapy, though not necessarily orally. You seem to be doing OK.

A section in the link to LPI at OSU in comment #6 by aMorePerfectUnion mentions administering vitamin C intravenously - one of the few “alternative” and complementary treatments that the BC Cancer Agency has labeled as investigational, as opposed to outright condemnation. I live in BC and met a summer resident in my community who had been getting such regular therapy for about 10 years - very expensive, apparently - after having been written off by conventional medical practice.

My opinion in the potential for vitamin C therapy stems primarily from the fact that most animals (and plants!) synthesize their own vitamin C - "vast majority" - and don't get heart disease, while those that don't, do. The only exception I've heard of is the Western Lowland Gorilla, which doesn't get heart disease when living wild, but does in captivity.

As a herbivore its primary diet comprises roots, shoots, fruit, wild celery, tree bark and pulp which is provided for in the thick forests of central and west Africa. Wikipedia dismisses their cardiovascular health as being due their their eating the seeds of the "grains of paradise" (Aframomum) plant. Zoo vets disagree, and are beginning to change their diets away from the high-sugar and high-starch food that zoos have fed gorillas for years to the food similar to what they eat in the wild, with no mention of Aframomum.

I'm not optimistic that the potential will be realized. Eg. see Codex Alimentarius here and here.