You’re wasting your time, love, but I thank you anyway. I don’t engage him anymore because Norm’s opinion of me is none of my business. (A most valuable lesson.)
Norm and his buddy are, unfortunately, sadly ignorant about the effectiveness of border fences and the terrain and property in south Texas. He mistakes discussions about that subject as a defense of Rick Perry, total opposition to a fence, and mad love for illegals.
I did not cite anything from LaRaza and would not do so knowingly. That is a figment of Norm’s very extensive imagination. I cited an article from No Border Wall, which is not affiliated with LaRaza. Additionally, I posted a graphic from the NYT, which cited Border Patrol figures on illegal alien apprehension in each of the southern patrol sectors. (The data was fact-based not opinion.) Again, we were discussing the effectiveness of a border fence.
As for Rick Perry, Norm and his buddy claim that Rick Perry opposes a border fence. They take snippets of quotes that leave out the full text of his position. Perry doesn’t oppose a fence. He opposes an ineffective, worthless fence - like the one in south Texas that the drug cartels are tunneling under and the illegals are climbing over. Big difference. He supports strategic fencing (i.e. where a fence will provide a substantial barrier that is difficult to circumvent) supplemented with enforcement by boots on the ground, aerial surveillance, and technology.
G’night, Norm. Go back to your corner. You’re still in timeout.
For anyone interested in the truth, As most of us have read in various mainstream media reports, watched on television interviews and you tube clips, Rick Perry, in context has said time and time again he opposes a real fence. He supports a ‘smart fence’ which is not a fence at all. It is a system of electronics that Democrats came up with to turn off when they need more voters coming across unopposed...which was of course prior to the current method of simply standing down the border patrol and bussing them in directly with no GOP opposition.
Perhaps it is a new thing that Perry can make a definitive statement multiple times on camera and somehow the words “I oppose the border fence” followed by mocking conservatives who support it with 35 foot ladder ‘jokes’, mean something other than the fact he opposed a border fence. Such a conclusion can only be obtained through interpretative dance. Because it has nothing to do with factual honesty.
Secondly, To believe that the No Border Wall group has no connection to LaRaza, dispute sharing resources, members, backing the same cause in the same area, posting each others articles and more, one would logically have to believe that groups like ACORN had/have no association to the Democrat party.
Third, both the southern Cal border Patrol office assigned to the fence in the San Diego sector credits it with a massive reduction in illegal crossings. Half a world away, Israel’s border fence had a reported high 90% effectiveness rate. In both cases that translates to massively fewer illegals crossing the border. As above, a quick search of google or any other search engine will yield literally tens of thousands of articles regarding the successes and effectiveness of these fences.
Lastly, when someone posts information claiming wall/fences do not work from groups whose sole agenda is to facilitate illegal immigration, it speaks for itself.