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To Vote or Not to Vote

Posted on 09/18/2014 8:50:20 AM PDT by jstaff

With the mid-terms close by I am hearing more and more that I should just not vote for Tom Tillis or any other Republican incumbent that defeated a Tea Party challenger in their primary. I should not support the Rovians. Mitch McConnell should be defeated by a Dem to teach him a lesson. I must be a closet liberal, American Constitution hating Democrat to even consider such a thing. Some with that view pop up on FR regularly to tell me to stay home on election day to teach the moderates R's a lesson by letting the D's win.

For what it's worth, I consider myself a social and fiscal conservative. I believe in the Constitution and the importance of the rule of law. I am also a pragmatist on election day. I firmly support the idea that when the best is not available we need to choose the least bad option, holding our noses if we need to. To simply not vote is to concede the debate to the other side, something that I am not going to do. While I can understand, if not approve, this idea on an emotional basis I just don't understand it on a logical, rational level.

In my view, anyone who claims any sort of conservative label and stands loudly and firmly behind the idea that we should just let the libs take charge does so for one of only four reasons:

1. They are ignorant. They just haven't noticed what is going on around them.

2. They are stupid. They see everything that is going on, they don't like it, but they just don't have the intellectual ability to figure out what is causing it.

3. They are fools. They know what is going on around them, they realize it is bad and they know what is causing it. They take an emotional approach to decision making, however, because their fav didn't win the primary and this is their way getting back at the bully who gave them a big boo-boo.

4. They are liars. They are really playing for the other side and this is just another tool they use to discourage us from voting.

If there is a reasoned, non-emotional argument to support the stay home approach to elections I would very much like to read it. Until I do I will continue to encourage everyone to forget this all-or-none attitude. Everyone makes choices in their life, every day, that reflect a personal compromise between what they would like to happen vs what they can realistically make happen. You do the best you can do for yourself at the time. There is no reason that electing the leadership of the entire nation should be treated differently.


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1 posted on 09/18/2014 8:50:20 AM PDT by jstaff
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I don’t support Hitler but I’m not voting against him. The people will eventually get fed up and overthrow him. /s


2 posted on 09/18/2014 8:53:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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IMO, vote, no matter what. If the Tea Party candidate did not win in the primary, you could still write him in. And that’s exactly what I plan to do. At least I’ll know I voted and I voted my conscience.

Maybe if more people did that, things would change?


3 posted on 09/18/2014 8:53:35 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Justice will not be served until those who r unaffected r as outraged as those who r. B Franklin)
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Well said, however, the fools will not listen and even stand more firmly behind their foolishness.

They're gonna show us and teach us a lesson.

4 posted on 09/18/2014 8:55:27 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfusbutcher)
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To: Lucky9teen

Sure, throw your vote away. You will get a hero medal from Emperor Obama!


5 posted on 09/18/2014 8:57:02 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfusbutcher)
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To: Lucky9teen

The time for wanting the GOP to give you a better candidate is before and during the primaries. If you want the GOP to be better get involved and make it better.

In the general election everything is simple:
Communism is bad vote against communism, vote against tyranny, VOTE AGAINST DEMOCRATS.


6 posted on 09/18/2014 8:58:42 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

If you think these RINOs will ever vote Conservative, I have a bridge to sell ya. RINOs = DemocRats.

7 posted on 09/18/2014 8:59:04 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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It ain’t gonna work.


8 posted on 09/18/2014 9:00:01 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: Redleg Duke

the GOPe threw my vote away.

Not me.


9 posted on 09/18/2014 9:01:08 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: jstaff

When McDaniel doesn’t vote for Cochran will you label him ignorant, stupid, a fool or a liar?


10 posted on 09/18/2014 9:01:30 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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You forgot #5: They are sick and tired of being stabbed in the back by so called Republicans, and instead of rippinig the bandage off slowly (because we’re headed the same direction with either R’s or D’s. How fast we get there depends on who is in control). I’d rather have a known enemy out front, than a backstabbing RINO in office another day. If you love your Country, it is your patriotic duty to walk away from the GOPe.


11 posted on 09/18/2014 9:02:24 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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A Republican usually won’t vote against our gun rights.


12 posted on 09/18/2014 9:02:44 AM PDT by Luke21
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You’re right. These are the same people who elected Barack Obama by staying home or making a silly write-in vote. Enough of this requirement for philosophical purity. The worst Republican is better than the best Democrat.


13 posted on 09/18/2014 9:04:24 AM PDT by clintonh8r (It's possible to love your country and hate your government. I'm proof of it.)
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To: Lucky9teen

No, those votes get pitched by the machine. Nobody knows who you voted for.


14 posted on 09/18/2014 9:05:20 AM PDT by dforest
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To: jstaff

I believe that concentrating fire on McConnell would be the best tactic.


15 posted on 09/18/2014 9:06:02 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Luke21

Exactly, there is no chance to have any affect on a democrap.


16 posted on 09/18/2014 9:06:29 AM PDT by dforest
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To: jstaff

Not voting got us where we are today and the democrats love you for it.
Cowards wait for other people to get the job done.


17 posted on 09/18/2014 9:06:30 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: VRWC For Truth

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.If you think these RINOs will ever vote Conservative, I have a bridge to sell ya. RINOs = DemocRats.

THIS^^^^^

HOW MANY TIMES????

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.


18 posted on 09/18/2014 9:10:10 AM PDT by RepRivFarm ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell)
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To: cripplecreek

People who don’t vote are clueless. They don’t understand the rules of the game, a game that you have to win one inch at a time. They live in their own little world and think the world should be a dictatorship of one. That’s not how it works. In order to get government off your back, you can’t just go off into the desert and live in a hut. The EPA will find you and kick you out. You have to work and convince others to make government smaller. You have to not only defund government, but resist the lure of government’s “helping” hands.


19 posted on 09/18/2014 9:10:20 AM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: clintonh8r

The worst Republican is better than the best Democrat.

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The Democratic bus is going all “Thelma and Louise” at 90 mph. That Republican bus is headed toward the same edge at only 35 mph.

Either way - you’re going over the edge. So tell us WHY...”The worst Republican is better than the best Democrat.”

In the meantime - I’ll stay off BOTH buses.


20 posted on 09/18/2014 9:11:31 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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