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Can the Navy's $12 Billion Stealth Destroyer Stay Afloat?
Daily Beast ^
| October 22, 2014
| Dave Majumdar
Posted on 10/22/2014 6:38:16 AM PDT by C19fan
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Did the writer from the Daily Beast even bother to do some research? Tumblehome was the standard design for wooden ships of the line and the French extensively used tumblehome designs for their pre-dreadnaught capital ships.
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posted on
10/22/2014 6:38:16 AM PDT
by
C19fan
To: C19fan
no kidding
The Nimitz Class, with a full load displacement of 97,000 tonne, is the world’s largest aircraft carrier.
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posted on
10/22/2014 6:44:00 AM PDT
by
FreeAtlanta
(Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
To: C19fan
First and foremost: can the thing even stay afloat?You MUST be kidding me? Who were the engineers on this project? A bunch of Head Start graduates? The winner of the National Milk Carton Sailboat regatta? A Harvard graduate?
To: C19fan
The writer is making like he had never heard or seen an electric motor. Typical modern “journalist”.
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posted on
10/22/2014 6:47:57 AM PDT
by
Fred Hayek
(The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
To: Fred Hayek
Yeah, that caught my eye, too. The Nuclear Subs and Aircraft carriers are not directly attacked to the reactors.
Are they electric powered?
I know modern trains use Diesel to generate electricity that powers electric motors. This isn’t new.
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posted on
10/22/2014 6:51:02 AM PDT
by
FreeAtlanta
(Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
To: FreeAtlanta
attached, not attacked. need more coffee.
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posted on
10/22/2014 6:51:41 AM PDT
by
FreeAtlanta
(Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
To: C19fan
First and foremost: can the thing even stay afloat?
...
What’s important is that all the contractor, cronies and lobbyists made a fortune.
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posted on
10/22/2014 6:52:48 AM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
To: Texas Eagle
sensationalistic, anti-military, daily beast article that isn’t well written nor well researched.
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posted on
10/22/2014 6:52:54 AM PDT
by
FreeAtlanta
(Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
To: C19fan
massive 155mm guns Since when are 6" guns 'massive'?
Yet another historically illiterate journalist.
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posted on
10/22/2014 6:53:24 AM PDT
by
slowhandluke
(It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
To: Texas Eagle
Based on my heavy involvement in the program, I can tell you that the simple, short answer to the question is "yes". We kept to the three basic rules of naval architecture.
1. Float.
2. Float upright.
3. Float upright after a hurricane and battle damage.
The rest of the piece is pure liberal attack mode garbage.
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posted on
10/22/2014 6:54:41 AM PDT
by
Pecos
(That government governs best which governs least.)
To: C19fan
I sadly took the time to read to the end of the OP. Apparently it is new technology to run motors (turbines) to generators and then to propulsion motors. Many commercial ships, subs and several other designs do that and have for a century. When you pass a freight train today marvel at the locomotive design because apparently it is new. So are the many peaker power plants that do exactly that and have for 20 years.
To: Pecos; FreeAtlanta
Whew. I’m feeling much better.
To: C19fan
Actually, I seem to remember some rather bothersome outcomes in the Coast Guard’s Deepwater Vessel developments....something about hulls breaking or could break or something like that. So this, to me, wouldn’t automatically be relegated to ‘wooden ship’ problems.
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posted on
10/22/2014 6:58:06 AM PDT
by
Gaffer
To: slowhandluke
massive 155mm guns
Since when are 6" guns 'massive'?
18 inch guns on the Yamato were massive!
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posted on
10/22/2014 7:04:11 AM PDT
by
painter
( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
To: mad_as_he$$
I’ve heard it said there are only two kinds of ships. Submarines and targets.
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posted on
10/22/2014 7:04:49 AM PDT
by
JohnnyP
To: Texas Eagle
I went to MIT, an actual engineering school. We referred to Harvard as “that other school in town”.
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posted on
10/22/2014 7:06:51 AM PDT
by
Pecos
(That government governs best which governs least.)
To: JohnnyP
Ive heard it said there are only two kinds of ships. Submarines and targets.Submarines are not ships, they're boats (at least to the bubbleheads).
To: Pecos
I recall ( I think it was the late 80's early 90's) the Navy was actively developing rocket boosted artillery shells for the remaining battleships then still in commission. IIRC, the maximum range was 200 miles+, which would have brought about 80% of the planet's main population areas within range.
The plan was cancelled because the cost of keeping a BB in service was deemed too expensive ( maintenance, upgrades, and crew) Yet those numbers pale when you look at the tens of billions we're spending now..or the cost of sending a Tomahawk to kill an ISIL truck.
Imagine the New Jersey in the Med, lobbing salvos of 16" shells onto ISIL camps...there would soon be a big shortage of virgins..
Regarding the Zumwalt class, I have heard much criticism to suggest that a crew that size (150) cannot possibly provide sufficient damage control personnel in a ship that size (15,000 tons) I'd welcome your comments on that aspect of the ship's viability.
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posted on
10/22/2014 7:20:27 AM PDT
by
ken5050
To: ken5050
We should build some towable 16” gun barges. Pull them to the battle zone and wham!
Could we take some of the 16” guns off of some of the old decommissioned ships?
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posted on
10/22/2014 7:25:55 AM PDT
by
FreeAtlanta
(Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
To: C19fan
Why research when you can bash something you don’t understand?
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posted on
10/22/2014 7:42:14 AM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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