Posted on 10/26/2014 5:07:51 PM PDT by nomad
This site claims a USAMRIID study found that Ebola can, under colder and dryer conditions, be as infectious and airborne as Infuenza Type-A. This is to any freeper Docs or labtechs, could you study the data in greater detail and post your findings?
Freezing preserves it.
If you have actual evidence that anything I have said is wrong or in any way contradicts the volume of scientific research articles published on Ebola over the last few decades, please provide it. For that matter, please provide evidence of anything that Dr. Friedan has said that is incorrect on the subject of Ebola.
I am not interested in conspiracy theories, nor do I accept the premise that just because a liberal administration is in charge, the people who provide information to that administration are automatically lying. Scientific evidence is scientific evidence, regardless of the administration in charge.
There is nothing political about basing practices on evidence, and refining practices based on better evidence. If only everyone would base procedures and policies on actual solid evidence of what works and what doesn’t, I doubt we’d even have politics. I *detest* political maneuvering, which is why I loathe the left so much.
BTW, I have nothing against flying. I’ll be flying very soon, in fact.
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/09/19/how-virginia-suburb-became-ebola-epicenter/
How a Virginia suburb became an Ebola epicenter
EXCERPT - more at link
The CDC was also on the ground – to make sure the monkey handlers at Hazelton were not infected, too. They weren’t.
“It turned out, unbelievably at the time, that the strain of the virus that killed the monkeys was almost as virulent as the African strain – even though the caretakers were not infected,” recalled Dr. Frederick Murphy, a pathologist and professor at the University of Texas Medical Branch. At the time, he was director of the National Center for Infectious Diseases at the CDC, and one of the high-level officials called to Reston to assess the monkey outbreak.
Murphy had been there when Ebola was named in 1976; he was the first person to photograph the virus with an electron microscope. He also helped discover the Marburg virus, a sister to Ebola Zaire and Ebola Sudan – and now Ebola Reston – in the 1960s. All four, plus the Tai Forest and Bundibgyo strains, are “filoviruses,” distinguished under a microscope by their rope-like features, often with hooks, crooks or squiggles. They are deadly, and Ebola Zaire, the strain that is raging through Sierra Leone, Liberia and all of Guinea in West Africa, is the worst.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/07/health/there-before-ebola-had-a-name.html
Scroll down for podcast:
First on Earth to See Ebola
Dr. Frederick Murphy was the first person to photograph and study Ebola up close in 1976. He reflects on disease he has come to know over the last 38 years. Jeffery DelViscio
http://www.utmb.edu/pathology/faculty/bios/Murphy.asp
Frederick A. Murphy, D.V.M., Ph.D.
So Ebama has allowed it to continue to be airborne.
My fear would be a person is infected, as in the Amber Vinson case or the do-gooder Doc, and they leave contamination where it survives long enough to infect.
Now what if that person has a cold or the flue? Don`t they become a walking virus factory with the temperatures now increasing the window of contamination for the next victims?
Would the ratio then increase to more than 2:1? Now add an ISIS element due to the open borders..., it can snowball easily.
Given the KeyStone CDC Cops handling this thing, and their Assclown in Chief, I wouldn`t trust them farther than I could throw`em. We need to know.
One word: Aerosol.
Unfortunately I do not think we will know until we see how it acts. There have certainly never been infections in the wild in cooler less humid environments so we have little experience with what will happen.
I think the use of quarantine and all possible precautions is prudent, and hopefully we will never find out. Unfortunately, I think we are about to. Hopefully it will fizzle like SARS did, but one of these times a true epidemic will take hold. If not Ebola, we can apply what we learn from Ebola to the next threat.
“Droplets fall to the ground pretty quickly . . .”
How quick is pretty quickly? What is fog?
On foggy mornings, windshield wipers (intermittent) are necessary for visibility. Is this not droplets suspended in the air?
That`s the whole point I was trying to make! We live in a nation that experiences WINTERS, not equatorial Africa!
BTW, I agree with your point on the zoonotic nature of Ebola. Wasn`t Yrsinia Pestis brought to America aboard ship bound rats and their fleas, only to establish itself in the US Western population of rodentia?
How long a droplet remains in the air depends on size. Is there something that the previous poster doesn’t get in regards to physics?
It is hard to find any news reports that describe the situation before the CDC arrived. I think that is because too many journalists want sensationalism, not accuracy, and it's far more juicy to say that even full PPE cannot stop the virus than to say that PPE wasn't used correctly.
It's only a virus, not some supernatural entity. You wouldn't know that from a lot of the news reports.
Yes , Ellis Island, the very facility we could use right now. But given that governor Cuomo just flip flopped on quarantine, Ellis Island won’t happen. Of all the flip flops I have seen Cuomo’s is the worst!
The TSA, alone, keeps me off of airplanes.
There is a big difference between being aerosolized and actually being an air borne virus
Its also a very dangerous virus that is highly lethal and we do not know enough about how it is transmitted and how to protect health care workers, which we would not know reading your posts
There is middle ground between sensationalizing it and being to cavalier about it. We need to find it quickly.
Jihadists are a threat to our troops in Africa, jihadists staged an attempted coup in Mali. There isn’t much to stop them from crossing over into Liberia and disrupting attempts to deal with the virus there.
I don’t know enough, and I don’t think any of us do. It clearly has a zoonotic reservoir in tropical Africa, but we do not have a similar fauna to that area. Whether it can survive and establish itself in animals common to north america remains to be seen. I sure hope not.
How would the US peeps like to zer0 out their hunting proclivities.
Squirrels would be very fun for urban dwellers along with most all others. Where is the Science on this?
Given what the government is doing about Ebola, and their blatant lack of certainty and quarantine, I am not bothering with an airport at all until I am sure the Ebola problem is done.
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