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Americans’ Cellphones Targeted in Secret U.S. Spy Program (DOJ Program)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 11/13/2014 | DEVLIN BARRETT

Posted on 11/13/2014 4:39:00 PM PST by Beave Meister

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To: DugwayDuke
Is it illegal or unconstitutional for a law enforcement agency to watch a road intersection for criminal activity because a law abiding citizen might walk through the intersection?

I guess you missed the part of the article where they: 1) spoof your carrier's signal to force your phone to connect to it; 2) they can jam your phone or disconnect your call; and most egregiously 3) where they can steal your photos or downloads from your phone.

There needs to be laws in place protecting us against this obvious government overreach.

21 posted on 11/13/2014 5:37:39 PM PST by NYRepublican72 (Democrats -- it's always someone else's fault.)
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To: Beave Meister

This whole Big Government/Big Brother instrusiveness is ostensibly to fight terrorism, 99.95% of which is committed by mohammedans.

Instead of keeping mohammedans out of our country, which would make us more secure than spying on everyone in the hopes of catching these crazed ragheads before they commit murder or mayhem, the goobermint keeps importing them, thus requiring ever more restrictions on our freedoms.

Becuase the idiot politcal elites class is enamoured with flooding our shores with “diversity”, including those who want to cut our throats, rather than forbidding mohammedan immigration to our country, the elites find themselves in the position where they must take away our liberties in order to protect us from the cutthroats who they refuse to keep out.

They’re brilliant, aren’t they?


22 posted on 11/13/2014 5:39:20 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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23 posted on 11/13/2014 5:42:40 PM PST by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box than 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: Beave Meister

look for cessnas with no N`s


24 posted on 11/13/2014 6:16:51 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: DugwayDuke
The WSJ article says the data on other than the actual suspect is not retained. So, why is that unconstitutional?

#1) I ... do ... NOT ... believe ... THEM ...

#2) I'm sure they're building that 5 zeta digital storage facility in Utah for storing missing IRS emails.

If you believe ANYTHING the govt tells you, more the fool you be.

Believe NONE of the govt propaganda pedaled out to you on a daily basis and your life will be MUCH safer.

25 posted on 11/13/2014 6:50:27 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (An army of deer led by a lion is more to be feared than an army of lions, led by a deer.)
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bkmk


26 posted on 11/13/2014 6:59:58 PM PST by Faith65 (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: LostInBayport
.. but immediately ruled out any negative consequences whatsoever for anyone involved.

Thread Winner !

27 posted on 11/13/2014 7:32:51 PM PST by tomkat ( cynicism helps fight truth decay)
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.. data on other than the actual suspect is not retained. So, why is that unconstitutional?

Shirley you're not series ?

28 posted on 11/13/2014 7:34:38 PM PST by tomkat ( cynicism helps fight truth decay)
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To: Beave Meister

The gubmint is free to listen to your phone calls and read your emails...since these were not around at the time the 4th Amendment was incorporated, right?

Apparently that’s how The Regime reads it:

Justice Department Expands Hunt for Data on Cellphones
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/26/justice-department-expands-hunt-for-data-on-cellphones/

Obama’s NSA eavesdropping goes beyond that of Bush... after campaigning on the promise of: “ No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me!”

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9845595-7.html

headlines read:” NSA Exceeds Legal Limits In Eavesdropping Program” , “ U.S. phone intercepts go beyond legal limits” , and “NSA Found Improperly Spying on Americans”.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123985123667923961.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

http://uk.reuters.com/article/burningIssues/idUKTRE53F09820090416

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/15/justice-dept-nsa-improperly-spied-americans/

YES WE SCAN!!!


29 posted on 11/21/2014 6:45:41 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: DesertRhino

I wonder if we have literally embraced Fascism in America. Reagan said fascism will come in form of liberalism. I so want to see the GOP fight back on this. We have far too many RINOs in the party today.


30 posted on 03/26/2015 12:48:18 PM PDT by JoinOrDie1754
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To: DesertRhino

It should also be illegal to have cameras on the roads as well.

The thing is our government doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the Constitution anymore or about our Bill of Rights. Its sickening.

What are we living in? East Germany?


31 posted on 03/26/2015 12:48:18 PM PDT by JoinOrDie1754
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To: Beave Meister; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

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32 posted on 03/26/2015 6:33:13 PM PDT by null and void (He who kills a tyrant (i.e. an usurper) to free his country is praised and rewarded ~ Thomas Aquinas)
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To: DugwayDuke

For the same reason it’s illegal to search through all of your possessions without a warrant, even if you don’t use the “evidence” thereby obtained.


33 posted on 03/26/2015 8:20:25 PM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47 -- with leather.)
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To: loungitude

This is a police money shake down operation in lieu of local taxes. They should be ashamed for doing this.


34 posted on 03/27/2015 9:05:52 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: DugwayDuke

Because there is an expectation of privacy using a phone in a car in which you are the only occupant. Unless you have a warrant, you can’t listen, peak, snoop, surveil, or probe.

I’ve got a neat gadget that basically turns the walls of your house into glass. What’s the harm in parking my van with the neat gadget outside any random house and turning on the video?

See where we are going here? Secure in persons, papers, what not. It had a brief mention in the Bill of Rights somewhere.


35 posted on 03/27/2015 9:15:53 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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“I’ve got a neat gadget that basically turns the walls of your house into glass. What’s the harm in parking my van with the neat gadget outside any random house and turning on the video?”

First of all, the surveillance is only conducted upon a known suspect. Second, any information on the other party is not maintained or stored. Your analogy has no suspect and you’re retaining the information.

A better analogy would be a suspect in a park. You take a picture of the suspect and incidentally capture in the background the image of an otherwise un-involved person. According to some, you cannot take the picture of the suspect if there is another person in the imagine.


36 posted on 03/27/2015 4:48:38 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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