NFL Schedule - 2014 [Live Thread Week 13]

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[Bender2]

Week 13

Thursday, Nov. 27

Chicago Bears vs. Detroit Lions, 12:30 p.m.

Philadelphia Eagles vs. Dallas Cowboys, 4:30 p.m.

Seattle Seahawks vs. San Francisco 49ers, 8:30 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 30

San Diego Chargers vs. Baltimore Ravens, 1p.m.

Cleveland Browns vs. Buffalo Bills, 1 p.m.

Tennessee Titans vs. Houston Texans, 1 p.m.

Washington Redskins vs. Indianapolis Colts, 1 p.m.

New York Giants vs. Jacksonville Jaguars, 1 p.m.

Carolina Panthers vs. Minnesota Vikings, 1 p.m.

New Orleans Saints vs. Pittsburgh Steelers, 1 p.m.

Oakland Raiders vs. St. Louis Rams, 1 p.m.

Cincinnati Bengals vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 1 p.m.

Arizona Cardinals vs. Atlanta Falcons, 4:05 p.m.

New England Patriots vs. Green Bay Packers, 4:25 p.m.

Denver Broncos vs. Kansas City Chiefs, 8:30 p.m.

Monday, Dec. 1

Miami Dolphins vs. New York Jets, 8:30 p.m.

[Benito Cereno]

Kaepernick just isn’t up to it. The Niners ought to be shopping him around for a trade.

[campaignPete R-CT]

YEA. Cowboys could win out to 12-4 and miss playoffs.

never happened in the wildcard era.

But would it surprise anyone if DET were upset @ CHI and finished 10-6 ? They won’t be a big favorite.

AZ is only a 3 point favorite at home vs KC on Dec 7th
http://www.footballlocks.com/early_nfl_lines.shtml

[Impy]

Dallas seems to be a in a wee bit of trouble. They could go 11-5 and still miss the playoffs while a 6-10 Atlanta or NOLA makes it.

[Perdogg]

Eventhough Dal has the head-to-head vs Sea? That is bullshit.

[campaignPete R-CT]

yes, ‘dogg.
the head2head in a 3way tie is useless, unless you beat BOTH of the other teams. Or unless SEA lost to both DET and DAL. SEA-DET will not play this year.

DAL needs DET to crumble. Maybe Lions lose @ CHI

[Perdogg]

This is a pretty good site.

http://www.playoffstatus.com/nfl/nflpostseasonprob.html

http://www.playoffstatus.com/nfl/cowboyswhatif.html

[campaignPete R-CT]

ESPN has a remedial analysis of tiebreakers

http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type/playoffs/sort/conferenceRank/order/false

MIAMI has all tiebreakers and a great chance at #6 seed due to advantage in CONF REC. Dolphs have 2 NFC losses, other teams have only 1. Non-Conf losses are better than Conf losses.

Except for KC in the 2-way tie. KC beat MIA h2h.
KC vs PITT comes up on the 21st. big game.

INDY has clinched COMMON vs HOUS, so their 2-game lead is really stronger than 2. HOUS has outside chance at DIV only if they sweep 4 remaining DIV games.

[campaignPete R-CT]

thanks

[Perdogg]

The weirdest part of the rules is that Washington will be eliminated (obvious) with a loss or tie against Indy or a loss or Tie by the Rams against Oakland.

Can anyone explain that one?

Dallas needs the following help this weekend

-New England over GB
-Minnesota over Carolina
-Atlanta over Arizona

[GeronL]

bump

[campaignPete R-CT]

MN over CAR

the only reason that is relevant is because the computer figures if MN beats CAR then they have a better chance to beat DET. And that helps DAL.
MN vs CAR result is really irrelevant to DAL.

[campaignPete R-CT]

re: Redskins

Redskins need
WASH 8-8 ... beat STL h2h
..............DIV
STL 8-8 4-2 ... lost to WASH h2h
SEA 8-8 2-4 .... beat WASH h2h
SF 8-8 2-4 .... beat WASH h2h

Redskins want STL to win this week because they only get in playoffs if STL gets 2nd place in West. If STL loses this weekend that kills WASH ... STL could not get to 8-8 because they will need to lose to WASH next week ... and that would be their 9th loss.

[Perdogg]

Could it be because Min beat Was and Phi beat Car?

[Dr. Sivana]

Has Bender2 EVER picked the Cowboys to lose? He picked them to win in all of their losses this year.

[campaignPete R-CT]

“Could it be because Min beat Was and Phi beat Car?”

let’s review PHIL vs DAL tiebreaker.

DAL can get the tiebreaker at 10-6, if all PHIL losses are DIV
DALL 10-6 4-2
PHIL 10-6 3-3

also:
DALL 10-6 4-2
PHIL 10-6 4-2
also goes to DALL as the 2 losses remaining would be CHI and INDY. Ends in TIE in Common and DALL gets CONF rec over PHIL

try:
DALL 10-6 3-3
PHIL 10-6 3-3
DALL there has a DIV loss and must also have a CHI loss (uncommon) and CONF ends in tie. GOes to SOV. The CAR loss barely effects the percentages there.

DALL 9-7 DALL gets it on CONF
PHIL 9-7

at 11-5, DALL loss must be to CHI (uncommon), 2 PHIL DIV losses
DALL 11-5 4-2
PHIL 11-5 4-2
Common would be tied, CONF would be tied, goes to SOV

12-4 Philly gets it due to DIV rec.

A. yes, the CAROLINA loss helps DALL on SOV vs PHILLY
B. computer probably figures MINN has a 30% chance to beat DET. If MINN wins this weekend, that chance could go up to 35%. Maybe ???

I would have to do the SOV for PHIL vs DALL

[campaignPete R-CT]

11-5 SOV FOR PHIL VS DAL

THERE ARE 9 VICTORIES THAT ARE COMMON TO BOTH PHIL AND DALL. (SO SOV IS EQUAL FOR THOSE 9 VICTORIES)

the remaining 2 are:
DAL:
N.O. 4
NYG 3
current total is 7

PHIL:
CAR 3.5
NY OR WASH 3 (11th Philly victory)
current total is 6.5

DALLAS has a sliver lead in SOV at 11-5 tie.
So yes, the CAR defeat would be significant for DALLAS. As would a N.O. victory be helpful.

[campaignPete R-CT]

let’s do the 10-6 tie that goes to Strength of Victory.

again, 9 common victories. Leaving one.

DALL beat N.O. 4
PHIL beat CAR 3.5

the same slight advantage for DAL.

[This is highly unusual for 2 such teams to basically beat the same teams and lose to the same teams.]

[campaignPete R-CT]

note to self:
PHIL vs DALL common games ...
uncommon games are:

DAL: CHI and N.O. 1-0-1 (CHI game undecided)
PHIL: GB and CAR 1-1

so a DAL loss has to be to CHI to tie uncommon and, thus, tie common. Else, PHIL gets COMMON.

[SevenofNine]

Congrat to Arizona sucks part is UCLA won’t go to Bowl game this year

[SevenofNine]

You know what for anniversary ESPN repeat that incident for Sportcentuy version of 60 minutes

I was looking at you tube I have feeling Woody Hayes may be going to diabetic shock so he attack the player