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1 posted on 12/15/2014 12:08:35 PM PST by PROCON
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The GOP are guided by them.


2 posted on 12/15/2014 12:10:19 PM PST by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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Income is not wealth.

Who do you think is going to wind up with that money in the end? It won’t be the poor folks.


3 posted on 12/15/2014 12:11:08 PM PST by dfwgator
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“There is no party that is ... pro-death”

Since every abortion results in a death and Democrats are universally pro-abortion, isn’t the Democratic Party pro-death?

But this article is clearly a communist screed, so who expected logic of all things?


4 posted on 12/15/2014 12:12:05 PM PST by IronJack
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This should be financed from Obama’s ‘stash’.


5 posted on 12/15/2014 12:13:02 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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Milton Friedman observing how means tested programs created a disincentive to work came up with the idea of a Guaranteed Minimum Income. Also, Charles Murray has a book on this. He claims if you take all the income redistribution programs you send each man, woman, and child in America a check for $10,000 per year. I would be in favor of this approach if it meant replacing all the current gov’t programs and firing all the case workers and bureaucrats.


7 posted on 12/15/2014 12:13:48 PM PST by C19fan
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right in the middle of the article “Try Newsweek for only $1.25 per week”

Newsweek, why not give it away for free to everyone as part of the basic income check you cheap bastards?


8 posted on 12/15/2014 12:13:48 PM PST by sappy (criminaldems)
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Living on $2 a day?

I smell a rat. The po’ folk I see walking around spend more than that on soda pop at 7-eleven.


9 posted on 12/15/2014 12:14:44 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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what an idiot.....how can he claim to be an economist when he obviously does not understand what a baseline is


10 posted on 12/15/2014 12:15:11 PM PST by Nifster
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Brilliant, George Soros bring your checkbook.


11 posted on 12/15/2014 12:15:18 PM PST by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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War on Poverty at 50 -- despite trillions spent, poverty won

In 2012, the federal government spent $668 billion to fund 126 separate anti-poverty programs. State and local governments kicked in another $284 billion, bringing total anti-poverty spending to nearly $1 trillion. That amounts to $20,610 for every poor person in America, or $61,830 per poor family of three.

Spending on the major anti-poverty programs increased in 2013, pushing the total even higher.

Over, the last 50 years, the government spent more than $16 trillion to fight poverty.


12 posted on 12/15/2014 12:15:56 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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Communist garbage.


14 posted on 12/15/2014 12:16:40 PM PST by Ray76 (Who gave the stand down order? Benghazi? Ferguson?)
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Anyone remember Richard Nixon who proposed a guaranteed income plan in the 1970s?


15 posted on 12/15/2014 12:16:49 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Principles without power aren't worth spit.)
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A basic income check? And in two years when inflation catches up to those worthless basic income checks and poverty is WORSE and not better - then what?

Its been said that if you took all the wealth from the rich and gave it to the poor - the rich would have it back within 2 years.


16 posted on 12/15/2014 12:17:28 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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What happens when as a result inflation starts spiraling out of control?


17 posted on 12/15/2014 12:17:45 PM PST by dfwgator
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Guess what happens when you flood the marketplace with extra money? Prices go up as more dollars chase the same resources.

This would do nothing to eradicate poverty, but sure would make more people dependent on their EBT card or equivalent.


19 posted on 12/15/2014 12:19:16 PM PST by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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How to Fix Poverty: Write Every Family a Basic Income Check

Here's a simple IF/THEN statement that shows why this is a monumentally stupid idea.

IF $X = Amount of "Basic Income Check",
THEN $X = The NEW Zero.

moron, Moron, MORON!!!!!!

20 posted on 12/15/2014 12:19:37 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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There will always be the rich and the poor. There is no fix. Cutting the outlay and length of freebies will eliminate a huge percent of the current lazy, um, poor.


21 posted on 12/15/2014 12:20:48 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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How to Fix Poverty: Write Every Family a Basic Income Check

Tax it. Tas the bleep outta those living in poverty.

Its well known that if you want MORE of something, then subsidize it. And that's what we do with poverty. We reward and grow it with subsidies.

If you want LESS of something - then tax it.

23 posted on 12/15/2014 12:21:02 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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If we could blow up every single welfare and means-tested program, such an idea would seem reasonable.

However, the moment you issue a single check, that recipient will blow it all. ALL. In mere moments. On drugs, gambling, booze, women, etc.

Then, they will still be begging at government’s doorstep asking for food, housing, healthcare, etc.

The problem of welfare is not its construct.

The problem of welfare is its existence.


24 posted on 12/15/2014 12:22:00 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Boner and McTurtle funded Amnesty and 0bamaCare)
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there already is a basic-income check. it’s the standard write-off on taxes. about $12k/yr is not taxed. this yields about $2400 annually (20%) of overlooked tax money


25 posted on 12/15/2014 12:22:39 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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