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Killing but not murder, says pro-choice writer
Clinic Quotes ^ | November 25, 2013 | Sarah Terzo

Posted on 12/17/2014 8:07:47 PM PST by Morgana

Pro-choice writer Molly Coddle:

“Abortion is killing, but not murder. Americans would like to think that death is avoidable, and for that reason liberals have tried to sugarcoat a women’s right to choose with an “it’s-not-about-the-fetus” argument that disregards the emotional intensity that everyone I know has experienced when choosing to abort. When we recognize that something is dying—if only a possibility of life—then it’s possible to grieve and move forward.”

Molly Coddle Herbal Abortion is not D.I.Y Slingshot

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KEYWORDS: abortion; clinicquotes; is; killing; meaningofword; murder; prolife
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Is this one of those ""It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is."?????
1 posted on 12/17/2014 8:07:47 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Eventually, this definition will be enlarged to define the liquidation of the political enemies of the uniparty.


2 posted on 12/17/2014 8:09:35 PM PST by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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To: Morgana

yep. in a very pure technical sense the author is legally correct.

However, that which is legal does not make it right, and in this case, moral or ethical.

I will always choose to do that which is moral and ethical over doing that which is simply legal. IMO


3 posted on 12/17/2014 8:12:32 PM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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To: Morgana
When we recognize that something is dying—if only a possibility of life—then it’s possible to grieve and move forward.

The possibility of life abruptly ends with an abortion, and the life cut short has no choice in the matter.

4 posted on 12/17/2014 8:16:51 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: Morgana

I’ve worked with many women who are proclaiming “pro-choice and have had abortions.” In virtually every instance, when the memory of the event is opened the wound is evident and the intense emotions flow. Our pure souls when we are born know the difference between right and wrong, not matter what we justify and proclaim intellectually.


5 posted on 12/17/2014 8:20:29 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: Morgana

Thank you for your posts on the pro-aborts. You’ve been on a roll lately. Has there always been this much stuff to post, or have they been more vocal lately?


6 posted on 12/17/2014 8:20:43 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: kosciusko51

There has been this much stuff and I’ve been more vocal.


7 posted on 12/17/2014 8:22:26 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

The author tries to use the “Have pity on me as an orphan and disregard that I have killed my parents” defense.

“Please have compassion for me as my child has died, it doesn’t matter that my actions killed her.”

Anyone see a problem with this logic?


8 posted on 12/17/2014 8:24:29 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired
Correction

“Please have compassion for me as my child has died, it doesn’t matter that my premeditated actions actions killed her.”

9 posted on 12/17/2014 8:26:42 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: Morgana

Was the fetus viable? If it was then you are taking a life. Not all that complicated.


10 posted on 12/17/2014 8:32:19 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: tired&retired
Wow.... can't believe this logic found at the same link:

Prochoicer: granting rights to fetus is “an utter perversion of individual rights”

“Banning any type of abortion to “protect the fetus” necessarily grants rights to the fetus–an utter perversion of individual rights. If a woman has no right to her own body, then by what logic does a fetus (which, by definition, is a biological parasite) have a right to the woman’s body? Properly, an infant’s rights begin after the fetus is removed from the mother’s body and its umbilical cord cut.

…. Once “fetal rights” are granted to one stage of the pregnancy, nothing will prevent their extension to all stages. “Fetal rights” are a gimmick to destroy a woman’s individual rights.”

11 posted on 12/17/2014 8:32:27 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: Morgana

Abortion takes an innocent life without due process of law. How does this differ from murder?


12 posted on 12/17/2014 8:37:54 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (Even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.)
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Is this one of those ""It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is."?????

You betcha. Except, who knows what she's going on about with "Americans would like to think that death is avoidable, ..."

Homicide: the killing of one human being by another.

Murder: Murder is a legal term - the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law.

If abortion is legal, it's both. If it's illegal it's homicide but not murder.
13 posted on 12/17/2014 8:44:27 PM PST by caveat emptor
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"If a woman has no right to her own body, then by what logic does a fetus (which, by definition, is a biological parasite) have a right to the woman’s body?"

If a woman has no soul, then how can she have rights?

If a fetus has a soul, then how can it not have rights?

And isn't collectivism the proclamation that everyone is a parasite? So if the womyn is already a parasite, isn't abortion a decision that should be left to the collective? What possible relevancy could her opinion have over her body? Its not like it belongs to her - both she and the fetus are the property of the state.

14 posted on 12/17/2014 8:48:24 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: caveat emptor
Oops. Looked OK in preview. Try again.

If abortion is legal, it's both. If it's illegal it's homicide but not murder.


15 posted on 12/17/2014 8:49:39 PM PST by caveat emptor
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To: Morgana

The truth is the truth even if everybody denies it and wrong is wrong even if everybody proclaims it truth.....is the paraphrase I believe of chesterton...forgive me gk for getting it off a bit, and pray for me as I pray for your cannonization!


16 posted on 12/17/2014 8:50:11 PM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: Morgana

Did the Nazis think they were murderers for killing Jews? I think not. But maybe they did.

Anyway, you get the point, Sarah. Put a little more thought into this. Deal?


17 posted on 12/17/2014 8:53:21 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: reasonisfaith

Sarah? Don’t you mean Molly Coddle? She is the one who said it.


18 posted on 12/17/2014 9:11:50 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

We agree— However I define Murder as premeditated killing. with the intent of denying life.
in the absence of State sanction —i.e. WAR. i.e. as a matter of defense—protection of property.Thus Biblical Law
is preserved.If two men strive together and a woman with child is caused to give birth prematurely and harm follows
the judgement is Lex Talliones Life for life, arm for arm eye for eye etc. as determined by a legal court. Abortion cannot be excused for HArry’s abortion/Roe v.Wade refused to
consider the God given life in the womb and how abortion nullifies the fundamental law reflected in our Declaration of Independence.


19 posted on 12/18/2014 4:09:57 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Morgana

Not only is it murder, it is premeditated murder of an innocent human being. It should be a capital offense.


20 posted on 12/18/2014 4:21:17 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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