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Why You Should (or Shouldn't) Switch to Each Leading Linux Desktop
Datamation ^ | 13 January 2015 | Bruce Byfield

Posted on 01/15/2015 10:30:48 AM PST by ShadowAce

The perfect desktop is undoubtedly the one you would design yourself. However, lacking the necessary time and expertise, many users hop instead from desktop to desktop desktop with the same enthusiasm as others hop between distros, hoping to find the ideal distribution.

In many cases, they never find their ideal, and for good reason -- even the simplest Linux desktop is a mixture of advantages and disadvantages.

Here, for example, are some core reasons for both accepting and rejecting the seven leading desktops of today:

Cinnamon

Leading Advantage: Like MATE, Linux Mint's other desktop, Cinnamon is a classic desktop for GNOME-based applications. However, unlike MATE, Cinnamon is more innovative, including a collection of desktop effects, desktop widgets, hot corners, and tiled windows. The result is a balance between tradition and innovation, all based on informal pollings of what users would like to see.

Leading Disadvantage: Cinnamon is improving in functionality with each release. However, many features, such as the tools for adding applets and desktop widgets, is a matter of mouse clicks rather than drag and drop. Similarly, downloading and installing new applets and widgets are two separate operations for no apparent reason. Such things may sound trivial, but you probably don't realize how much you take drag and drop for granted until you do without it. Lacking drag and drop, Cinnamon can sometimes feel awkward and primitive.

GNOME

Leading Advantage: GNOME supports an official set of extensions for a fallback mode for systems without hardware acceleration, but there is also a much larger set of unofficial extensions. Although some of the unofficial extensions may conflict with each other at any given moment, the majority are stable enough to be used freely.

I suspect that GNOME started encouraging extensions as a low maintenance way of silencing some of the criticisms about its current design. But whatever the intention, from the user's perspective, the result has been a seemingly endless choice of desktop configurations. The selection of such items as menus and taskbars is particularly rich.

Leading Disadvantage: By default, GNOME consists of two modes: one in which you work, and an overview in which you launch applications and position them on virtual desktops. This arrangement might work on a phone, where the screen is small, but it is a nuisance on a laptop or workstation, especially since you can only launch one application at a time from the overview.

You can judge the popularity of the overview by the fact that a sizeable percentage of GNOME's extensions are designed to hide the overview and eliminate the need for it.

KDE Plasma

Leading Disadvantage: With the possible exception of Cinnamon, no Linux desktop is as concerned with innovation as KDE's Plasma. While keeping the classic desktop metaphor, Plasma extends it in all sorts of ways, offering easy swapping of icons, tabbed windows for organizing windows on the desktop, widgets on the desktop, multiple desktops, and multiple desktop layouts. You don't need to use any of these, but if you are open to new ways of working, nothing comes close to KDE.

Leading Disadvantage: For years, KDE might as well have been a different operating system for all that GNOME users knew about it. With the current fourth release series, that has become truer than ever. The problem isn't that you can do anything in GNOME that you can't in KDE, but that you do those things differently.

Most desktop configuration, for instance, involves unlocking desktop icons and widgets, and using a mini-menu on each item to edit its behavior and position. Similarly, icons are not added directly to the desktop -- instead, you add them to a widget, which can then be expanded to encompass the entire desktop. These alternatives are simple enough, but they can be confusing until you learn how to use them.

KDE plasma, Linux desktop

KDE Plasma

LXDE

Leading Advantage: LXDE is lightweight and fast -- undoubtedly more so than any other Linux desktop. If you want to give an old computer new life or if you tend to condemn GNOME or KDE as "bloated," then LXDE is probably what you are looking for.

Leading Disadvantage: Being lightweight has a price. In LXDE's case, that price is a bare minimum of options. Those who view the desktop as only a background against which to start applications will probably see that as a small price, but those who prefer to configure the desktop and work their own way may eventually find LXDE too constraining.

MATE

Leading Advantage: MATE is Linux Mint's evolved fork of GNOME 2. If you liked GNOME 2, MATE will make you feel right at home. You'll find that a few names have changed, and that the menu is contained in a single window, but, in general, no other Linux desktop reproduces the GNOME 2 desktop quite as well.

Leading Disadvantage: MATE is utilitarian to the point of conservatism. For example, its panel applets are little different -- and possibly identical -- to what GNOME 2 offered a decade ago. Given that MATE is a classical desktop, couldn't it offer a little more?

Unity

Leading Advantage: Ubuntu's Unity makes far better use of screen space than other Linux desktops. The movement of the menu and launcher to the left side of the screen unsettled many, but follows logically given that widescreen monitors are wider than they are tall. Similarly, Unity overcomes the limitations of the vertical screen space by having the icons at the bottom of the launcher collapse, while minimalist triangles designate active and open apps, instead of wasting space on a taskbar.

However, if Ubuntu appears on a phone or a tablet -- both of which have been promised -- the main advantage of Unity in the future may be to use the same desktop on all your devices.

Leading Disadvantage: In order to be used across multiple devices, Unity remains a desktop for undemanding users. Others might find it awkward, especially when they want to work from two or more windows open side by side.

XFCE

Leading Advantage: Xfce bills itself as a balance between speed and user convenience. Xfce generally lives up to this billing, but it has an even a greater advantage: the ability to run both GNOME and KDE applications better than any other Linux desktop. If you prefer to choose your applications individually, instead of confining yourself to the applications designed for your system, then Xfce is a logical choice.

Leading Disadvantage: Like Cinnamon, Xfce lacks the ability to drag and drop icons that is so central to the modern desktop. While you can learn to manage without this ability, at first not having it makes Xfce feel old-fashioned and limited. This impression is reinforced by Xfce's long delays between releases, which can rival those of the Debian distribution.

XFCE, Linux Desktop

Making a Choice

Here, I have given a combination of my reactions and those that others have voiced on the Internet. However, the choice of desktops can be intensely personal -- many of us are, after all, spending 8-14 hours a day in contact with them.



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To: TomGuy
They seemed aimed at geeks and gave only cursory attention to actual productivity.

Yes, they do seem aimed at geeks, at least to some extent. I used to be kind of a geek myself, but these days I'm totally focused on what I'm trying to do with computers, not on the operating system that makes the resources of the computer available to me.

On the other hand, Microsoft is such a royal pain, between their forced obsolescence and constant pick-pocketing. My company uses Linux on our servers, and all our analytical software is written to compile for a Linux target.

Unfortunately I am constrained to use Windows MFC for developing new algorithms because it's the only GUI I know. I'm not dogmatically against learning a new one, but I only want to learn one. Linux people seem to think that everyone should know multiple distros, multiple desktops, multiple application frameworks, etc. I don't have time to learn a bunch of them before settling on the one that is "the best." I wasted about six months diving into Qt before figuring out that it is a bloated slow mess.

21 posted on 01/15/2015 5:58:14 PM PST by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: ShadowAce

Kde and xfce are my favs. I’ve really taken to the Kate editor of late. Vi is essential for certain editing chores, but Kate has grown on me.


22 posted on 01/15/2015 6:29:45 PM PST by zeugma (The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
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To: ShadowAce

I believe it was you that posted a thread about trying Linux using unetbootin awhile back.

I gave it a try, selecting Linux Mint, and after using it for a few days, decided to go for the permanent install using a different USB flash drive as the install media. I had planned to make that a temporary solution, waiting to decide whether to buy an SSD as a permanent installation. I’ve already decided that for at least the foreseeable future, there’s no compelling reason to buy that SSD because it’s running so well on the USB 3.0 flash drive. The installation process has become so easy there’s really no downside to doing multiple installations if I decide later to go with my original plan .

I had used Linux for several years up until 2008, but the computer I was running it on died, and I just never got around to buying another computer to put it on.

I was really surprised at how intuitive the Linux install has become. Much to my surprise, it found all of my hardware, including my wireless mouse, internal sound card, correct video settings, and all I really had to do was set the screen saver and blank time.

I should note that all I do with this computer is web browsing, watching TV with Hulu, email, youtube, etc, but for these purposes, this computer runs much faster using Linux than it did running Win 7.

I’m very happy that I gave Linux another try. It does everything I need it to do.


23 posted on 01/15/2015 9:14:38 PM PST by Nacho Bidnith (The Govt's war on drugs was the setup for war on the American People)
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To: ShadowAce

bump


24 posted on 01/15/2015 9:17:18 PM PST by Pelham (WWIII. Islam vs the West)
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To: Steely Tom
I'm not dogmatically against learning a new one, but I only want to learn one. Linux people seem to think that everyone should know multiple distros, multiple desktops, multiple application frameworks, etc. I don't have time to learn a bunch of them before settling on the one that is "the best." I wasted about six months diving into Qt before figuring out that it is a bloated slow mess.

You don't need to learn all of them--but they do give you a choice. You said you don't like Eclipse as an IDE--try CodeLite, or Netbeans.

We don't expect people to know multiple distros, or multiple desktops. I myself know very little about Gnome (and I like it that way), and even less about Unity. I know marginally more about KDE as I used to use it. I know a lot more about Xfce, Fedora, and Red Hat (I work with and am certified in Red Hat).

The point is not to know everything--you can't--but to be able to make that choice as to what you do like and can work with. You don't get that choice with other OSes.

25 posted on 01/16/2015 3:50:37 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
My-Desktop
I like the Linux Mint 17.1 KDE desktop. It has lots of features. Here is a snapshot of my desktop. I resized it down about half size.

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

26 posted on 01/16/2015 8:45:21 AM PST by Varmint Al
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To: Varmint Al

That’s nice looking.


27 posted on 01/16/2015 8:47:28 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Varmint Al; ShadowAce; Swordmaker; grey_whiskers

I just bought a new PC because my old one died.

After some desultory poking around on the web, it looks like a fair number of people line Linux Mint.

I have the Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 install disks and rescue disks; the machine isn’t out of the box yet.

Do I hear any votes for Fedora or Red Hat as opposed to Mint?

And, with each, are there any other votes for best desktop?

(I am an experienced programmer. Admin, not so much...)

Thanks for any suggestions; flames redirected to /dev/null ...

The machine is an HP Pavilion, Intel G3220 chip; 128 GB SSD hard drive and 1TB 7200rpm conventional hard drive; 4GB RAM.

I was hoping to partition for dual-boot. How much room should I leave for each OS? And my other online sources say to install Windows 7 first, then go back to do Linux.

Your thoughts?

Cheers!


28 posted on 05/25/2015 3:23:46 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
For a dual-boot, that is correct--install Windows first. It likes to mess up the MBR during the install.

I use Fedora. I have never used Mint or any other flavor of Ubuntu. I've used RH and Fedora since 1993/1994. If you are not familiar with Linux, it may be a bit overwhelming, but you'll learn it quickly. :)

29 posted on 05/25/2015 3:28:27 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: grey_whiskers
Hi Grey Whiskers.
I have a "test bed computer" that has everything but a hard drive. I already have Windows XP Pro running on a 120 Gb SSD in the target compute for dual boot.
I install a blank 60 or 120 Gb SSD in the test bed computer and install Linux Mint 17.1 KDE. It takes about 20 minutes. The install finds the wireless router and all of the hardware in the test bed. After the install, I get the latest updates for Mint and then put the Icons on the desktop I want. It is easy to do from the "Kickoff Applications Manager" (KAM) in the lower left corner of the screen.
I thin install the Mint SSD into the target computer and set the BIOS to boot from the DVD first and then the Mint SSD second.

Boot up in Mint and to setup the dual boot, I run this command in the Konsole:
sudo update-grub
That setup the boot so Mint is the first choice with the option to scroll down to boot into Windows.
With Mint you can read all of the files you have on the Windows drive, but when in Windows you cannot read the Mint drive.
I have found that I only occasionaly need to boot into Windows. Mint does everything I need. All of the driver CD's that come with hardware like video cards etc. go unused. Mint has all of the drivers that I have needed so far.

Setting up the printer is simple: In the KAM merely type "printer" without the quotes into the search window and click on the printer word that pops up. Select your printer make and model.
Setting up the scanner was equally simple. Type in "scan" and click on the Xsane word that pops up. It searches for your scanner and brings up a screen on how you want to scan.
I have a Hard Drive duplicator. When I get a system setup like I want, I duplicate the HD and can install that HD in another computer or Laptop if it is a 2.5" HD and Voila! it boots up and again finds all of the hardware and runs. Try that with Windows and you will be making a long distance phone call to India and pleading for the ability to Authenticate or Purchase a new key.

One thing that will happen is that the Master Boot Record (MBR) on the Windows drive will not Windows boot up without the Mint drive in the system. That can be solved with Norton's gdisk run from a boot up CD. The command there is to find which drive contains Windows with:
gdisk
Then if it is say disk 3 for example you would type:
gdisk 3 /mbr
That will reset the MBR.

I like to build computers and have a number of people running Mint. They are all happy and it does everything they need. None of them know the Konsole commands and with Mint's GUI, they don't need to know the kbd commands.

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

30 posted on 05/25/2015 5:48:31 PM PDT by Varmint Al
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