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To: Zuriel; Aleya2Fairlie
Valuble warnings? How many times a week do you need to be reminded that Joel Osteen is a blind leader of the blind?

So just how many times this week have I posted threads about the charlatan Osteen? Last week? The week before?

I'll wait while you count them.

Or are you just hurling hyperbolic false accusations to see what will stick?

How many times do you need to be reminded? You seem to have it all right, so maybe once a year is enough for you. But there are others for who once a day is not enough! Or perhaps is it that you send your hard earned money to the Lakewood cashcow?

64 posted on 01/24/2015 3:48:08 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Gamecock

I repeat from an earlier post:
I said nothing to elevate sin or sinners. It is proper, for those professing Christianity, to humbly point out sin, and move on, remembering our own past.

**So just how many times this week have I posted threads about the charlatan Osteen? Last week? The week before?**

As a truck driver with a ‘dumbphone’, I don’t log on every day, and then only for short times here and there as I prefer to be out in the shop, instead of surfing the web. I have been home on more evenings than usual, hence my visiting FR more lately.

It just seems that I see you as the self appointed attack dog of the false teachers. That’s fine. It’s just that, as I said before, the threads seem to invite, or evolve into, un-Christlike, petty mockery of the targets. If you can’t see that, then you are as blind as the Pharisees.

**Or perhaps is it that you send your hard earned money to the Lakewood cashcow?**

Not a dime. And I quit giving to the Calvinists when I saw their avoidance of God’s SCRIPTURAL rebirth process, as taught in Acts 2:38, which is in fulfillment of: Matt. 28:19,20; Mk 16:16; Lk 24:47; and John 20:22,23. Those are the commisions of the Lord which harmonize wonderfully to Acts 2:38

Matthew 28:19,20
Keep in mind that before ascending, Jesus Christ’s first detailed command to his apostles, was for them to “..teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost; teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you..”.

What particular command did he detail right there?...YOU BAPTIZE THEM. I think you know he is talking about water baptism, so we are in agreement about that. Besides, they (the apostles) weren’t able to perform the Holy Ghost baptism. So, the Lord wasn’t instructing them to do something they were not empowered to do.

Mark 16:16
The Lord brings up his command for baptism again, giving the command in wording that shows how serious he is about water baptism: “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned”.

Remember again, that the Holy Ghost baptism is not the apostles responsibility. If they preach the gospel, and the listener(s) want baptized, the minister performs the water baptism. The minister may go on his way, both he and the convert having done their parts, trusting that the Lord will baptize with the Holy Ghost. The conversion of the Ethiopian eunuch (Acts 9:35-39) spells this out quite clearly.

Luke 24:47
The Lord commanded “that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his NAME among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem”. While one would ask, where’s the water baptism in THAT command? All one has to do, is see that command initiated in Acts 2:38, for it’s fulfillment.

John 20:22,23
The Lord “breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: Whose soever sins YE remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins YE retain, they are retained”.

SO....when THEY began to remit sins (Acts 2:38), THEY did it by water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ as per HIS instructions.

Those, that don’t believe their words (including: to be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins) will have their sins retained. It’s possible to change one’s mind and obey His will. For, after being told to obey Acts 2:38, I refused to accept the Lord’s command for several years. I am thankful for his patience.


65 posted on 01/24/2015 6:59:53 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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