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To: Swordmaker

“...So your experience with ONE EE means that all are not? Talk about taking the specific to the general. My experience is the opposite.”

You don’t read too well do you? ... arrogant too.

I said... “Not only are they horrible with troubleshooting PC’s, they have ZERO tolerance to troubleshoot!”

Key word “They”. I used ONE as an example though most were inept and clumsy dealing with PC tech issues. My experience is 180 from yours having had almost 40 years associating with scientists & engineers in manufacturing, research and development. Most, and I mean MOST, were and still are very computer-tech illiterate, using computers only as a tool to perform their work.

“My experience is the opposite. Most Mac users are actually quite computer literate, being familiar with TWO operating systems, since the majority of Mac users came from the Windows environment...”

I’m 180 on that comment too. The PC’s users I have known for almost 30 years don’t like Mac’s and would never own one. And the Mac users I know were always Mac users and are Mac obsessed. Very few were converts from PC’s let alone cared to know both OS’s and hardware. The Mac obsessed ones had little if any troubleshooting skills with PC’s, and quite ignorant with PC’s in general.

“... while most Windows users are barely savvy in the one they’re working in now.”

Very true, as MAC users are also barely savvy in troubleshooting the one they’re working in now. Oh yeah, as you pointed out in your next quote... Mac users don’t have to worry about being tech-savvy and taking time-out troubleshooting on MAC’s since Mac’s work with them on what THEY want to get done. You sound like a Mac salesman.

Not too bias against PS’s are we now?

“On the other hand, most engineers and savvy in the know people DON’T want to spend their valuable time trouble shooting a dumb computer, so they select one that doesn’t require trouble shooting and works with them on what THEY want to get done. Ergo, the sheer number of Macs you see in the photo personally selected by people who don’t want to waste time trouble shooting machines that are prone to requiring trouble shooting.”

Oh, puh-lease... both hardware and OS platforms have their issues. I personally find Macs annoying to work on. They’re overpriced and appeal mainly to those esthetic weenies of the entertainment, graphics and marketing industries.

Yeah, those so-called engineers and scientists in the JPL photo I’m sure bought their Macs because it was more practical and performed better and more reliability at twice the price. No, they bought them to be cool because to them a Mac is like a Mercedes and a PC is like a 1971 Chevy Camero. The horsepower is the same and they both get you to where you want to go. But the Mac user will service their Mac at the Mercedes Store while the PC user will pull it apart on his kitchen table and fix it with off-the-shelf parts because under the hood is an engine and bolts... not a bunch of plastic, wires and the “Reignac-sur-Indre”

Mac hardware and software are a lock-down, proprietary and difficult to service on your own and are restrictive in options, expandability any customization.

The (2) in the room with the PC’s I would say are the true-at-heart engineers. They want to be able to open the PC and fix it, not pussy it over to a Mac Store afraid to break a nail as the service attendant takes them for a $500-1000 repair ride while the PC user could fix most issues for $50 bucks or less!

Anyways... whatever.

It’s obvious you embrace Macs. To me Macs suck because they’re proprietary. I could care less one way or the other which is preferred. I prefer PC’s.


107 posted on 01/23/2015 9:48:50 PM PST by Bellagio
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To: Bellagio
their issues. I personally find Macs annoying to work on. They’re overpriced and appeal mainly to those esthetic weenies of the entertainment, graphics and marketing industries.

You have hit most of the myths about Macs that ignorant people who know nothing about Macs hit. . . and prove my point. Including using the name MAC as an acronym. You really know very little and are trying to tell us Mac users who DO know what we're talking about untruths based on your total ignorance. I have owned and operated a cross platform business and computer consulting business for 35 years. . . and I know both platforms intimately. It's obvious YOU haven't a clue when you say the Macs are "Mac hardware and software are a lock-down, proprietary" when they are anything but. OS X is UNIX. . . my Mac runs SEVEN operating systems, including OS X, UNIX, Micrsoft Wndows 7.1, 8 & 8.1, and two versions of Linux. I have on occasion, just to show the Mac could do it, run all seven simultaneously. I also have virtual machine versions of MS-DOS 3.6, Amiga-OS, THEOS, and several others, all of which I can run should the need arise to meet the needs of my clients. They all run in sandboxes under OS X. Many PC Magazine reviewers have stated the the best WINDOWS COMPUTERS are Macs!

Yeah, those so-called engineers and scientists in the JPL photo I’m sure bought their Macs because it was more practical and performed better and more reliability at twice the price. No, they bought them to be cool because to them a Mac is like a Mercedes and a PC is like a 1971 Chevy Camero. The horsepower is the same and they both get you to where you want to go. But the Mac user will service their Mac at the Mercedes Store while the PC user will pull it apart on his kitchen table and fix it with off-the-shelf parts because under the hood is an engine and bolts... not a bunch of plastic, wires and the “Reignac-sur-Indre”

Your claim that those aerospace engineers are so vain they buy a computer to "look cool," demonstrates the level of your Apple derangement. You project onto any Apple user your total distortion of reality. . . because you believe the FUD. . . and literally know nothing about Macs except the FUD. You are the example that proves my point exactly.

110 posted on 01/24/2015 1:06:07 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Bellagio

Too damn tired and it’s late. The Windows list is Windows XP, 7, and 8, 8.1. . . but 8 is only on a disk image I keep around because one client has refused to upgrade to 8.1. Sorry about that.


112 posted on 01/24/2015 1:18:28 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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