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Russia Would See U.S. Moves to Arm Ukraine as Declaration of War
Moscow Times ^ | 02/09/2015 | By Matthew Bodner

Posted on 02/10/2015 7:22:59 PM PST by Rusty0604

U.S. provision of military aid to Ukraine would be seen by Moscow as a declaration of war and spark a global escalation of Ukraine's separatist conflict, Russian defense analysts said.

With Russia-backed rebels in eastern Ukraine seizing new territory from the Ukrainian army, voices in Washington are demanding that Kiev be given defensive weapons and hardware — including lethal equipment — to hold the line.

But if such aid were sent, "Russia would reasonably consider the U.S. to be a direct participant in the conflict," said Evgeny Buzhinsky, a military expert at the Moscow-based PIR Center.

Speaking to The Moscow Times on a condition of anonymity, a member of the Russian Defense Ministry's public advisory board warned that Moscow would not only up the ante in eastern Ukraine, "but also respond asymmetrically against Washington or its allies on other fronts."

"It would become tit-for-tat," said Maxim Shepovalenko, an analyst at the Moscow-based Center for the Analysis of Strategy and Technology (CAST).

"Moscow will not just sit by calmly and see what happens, it will counteract," he said.

The Russian counterstrike could take the conflict far beyond Ukraine, according to the source on the Defense Ministry's public advisory board.

Pointing to one possible avenue of asymmetrical retaliation, the source said Moscow could give in to long-standing Chinese requests for sensitive defense technologies that would aid in its development of high-tech weapons capable of doing serious damage to U.S. naval forces in the Asia-Pacific.

Moscow has so far declined China's requests on "politically correct pretenses," the source said.

"That's just one example. We can also encourage Iran, or even back Iran in a fight — a military operation — with Saudi Arabia, so then the prices for oil will skyrocket," the source said, explaining that these were just two possible responses.

(Excerpt) Read more at themoscowtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: ukrainecrisis
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Before jumping on me for loving Putin or something like that, I just posted this because I think it's good to see what the other side is saying or doing.
1 posted on 02/10/2015 7:22:59 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

If we had a president that had a set I would say, so what. However ...


2 posted on 02/10/2015 7:28:51 PM PST by doc1019 (Blue lives matter)
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To: Rusty0604

We sell arms to lots of friendly, sovereign states out there. Even Taiwan, and we do not even officially recognize it... heck even ISIS was allowed to get away with stingers and M1A1’s...


3 posted on 02/10/2015 7:29:11 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Rusty0604

Gee, I didn’t see this coming. NOT!


4 posted on 02/10/2015 7:37:49 PM PST by BBell (breathe easy obey the law)
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To: Rusty0604

We got a lame duck and an economy that’s got serious issues, especially with unemployment.

Wonder where this is all going to end up.


5 posted on 02/10/2015 7:44:04 PM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Rusty0604

Colombia’s military intercepted a shipment of Russian-made anti-aircraft rockets last week that were headed to the FARC


6 posted on 02/10/2015 7:44:22 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Rusty0604

They know BHO is a p*ssy; they’re trying to intimidate him into forfeiting the Soviet states back to Russia.

Reagan/ Casey would put with this Marxist bullying.

Russia’s economy is slightly smaller than Italy.


7 posted on 02/10/2015 7:48:29 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38)
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To: Rusty0604

Glad you posted this article because I’m listening to the Kremlin’s stop propagandist in American academia, Prof. Stephen Cohen (NYU, formerly the top poisoner at Princeton along with Richard Falk), on the “John Batchelor Show”.

John kneels that the foot of this longtime pro-Soviet/Russia well trained and well-spoken disinformation and misinformation specialist. He’s talking about how the US is to blame, along with NATO, for Russia’s actions in invading the Ukraine.

It sound’s just like Hitler’s explanations for seizing or threatening war over the Sudetenland, parts of Czechoslovakia, Danzig, etc., or Stalin’s justifications for invading Poland under the then secret Ribbentropp-Molotov Treaty and Protocols in 1939, or Stalin’s secret arming, training, and directing the No. Korean invasion of So. Korea in June 1950 (see the LIFE magazine article by Pawel Monet).

The Ukraine badly needs anti-tank weapons and more heavy artillery to break the Red stranglehold on the Donestk areas held by Kiev and to stop the artillery siege of Mariupol.

Prof. Cohen’s objective is to prevent any American or even Allied aid thru NATO or on a country-to-country basis for Ukraine. The guy is a red as can be without showing a Party card, but he is very good at his disinformation program/lines and very skillful as a speaker/writer.
A very dangerous man for world freedom.


8 posted on 02/10/2015 7:49:15 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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Obama has stated he is considering supply of "lethal defensive weapons" to Ukraine. Does that put this Russian statement in perspective for you?
9 posted on 02/10/2015 7:49:19 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Finalapproach29er

oops.
sp=wouldn’t


10 posted on 02/10/2015 7:49:21 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38)
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To: Rusty0604
Before jumping on me for loving Putin or something like that, I just posted this because I think it's good to see what the other side is saying or doing.

How many in east Ukraine see things:

Wretched US Journalism on Ukraine

If you can get past the Bush-bashing, the writer makes some valid points.

11 posted on 02/10/2015 7:50:08 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Rusty0604

Boo friggin’ hoo. Russia is the world’s largest arms supplier last I checked.


12 posted on 02/10/2015 7:51:18 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd ("We are condemned by men who are themselves condemned" -- The Most Reverend Marcel Lefebvre)
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To: Rusty0604

Russia is there in force, this doesn’t change the facts on the ground.


13 posted on 02/10/2015 8:01:33 PM PST by dila813
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To: piasa

What is the FARC?


14 posted on 02/10/2015 8:11:30 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: hinckley buzzard

Do you really think our toothless, testosterone deficient president is willing to challenge Putin?


15 posted on 02/10/2015 8:12:52 PM PST by doc1019 (Blue lives matter)
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To: Finalapproach29er

I think Russia is interested in the gas pipeline to Europe also. Our friends Quatar want the same.


16 posted on 02/10/2015 8:14:19 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I bet he wouldn’t try it if we had a President with some balls, and one who only cared about peace with Iran.


17 posted on 02/10/2015 8:17:18 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

“The Ukraine badly needs anti-tank weapons and more heavy artillery”

Why??
So more of it can be turned over to the rebels, either by capture, troops changing sides, or outright sale by Ukranian officers???


18 posted on 02/10/2015 8:22:15 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: Drew68

This didn’t help with diplomacy:

President Obama’s top diplomat to Europe has been caught on tape saying “F–k the EU.”

The conversation between Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to the Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt was anonymously leaked on YouTube.

In the leaked telephone call, first reported by the Kyiv Post, Nuland sharply criticizes the European Union’s handling of the Ukraine crisis and lays out the administration’s desired outcome for the crisis.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/fuck-the-eu-says-americas-top-europe-diplomat/


19 posted on 02/10/2015 8:23:13 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Barack Obama. The gift that keeps on giving.


20 posted on 02/10/2015 8:23:16 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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