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To: PROCON

“They come from man”

What shocking ignorance. If they come from man, they are not rights at all. They’re just arbitrary “permissions”, to be granted or revoked by those in power, be they in the majority or no.


12 posted on 02/12/2015 10:24:56 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: rightwingcrazy
What shocking ignorance. If they come from man, they are not rights at all. They’re just arbitrary “permissions”, to be granted or revoked by those in power, be they in the majority or no.

Exactly. If they did not come from God, they come from Kings or government bodies, either of which can revoke them at a whim so they aren't truly "rights".

32 posted on 02/12/2015 10:35:26 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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To: rightwingcrazy

“If they come from man, they are not rights at all.”

Where did you get that idea?

For starters, the statements of rights given by God come from the Declaration of Independence. While it is a founding document, it is not a document proscribing any law. The Constitution is the document that specifies our form of government, how the government will run, and the specifics of our laws. The use of the words of the DoI preamble as if they were the law or had some force of law is ridiculous and arguing the premise that our rights come directly from God is a waste of time. Our rights and our laws come from the Constitution which was framed and agreed to by men, regardless of their individual beliefs of where the rights come from.

The Constitution was written and agreed to by the founding states based on the particular beliefs of the framers, but it does not specify that these laws are given to us specifically by God. Men did indeed create our government and laws and the states specifically adopted that Constitution as the basis of governing the union of states.

They are from man and they are rights agreed to and upheld by all of the states in the union. Where the framers considered these rights to have come from is not an issue but what is at issue is the strict enforcement and adherence to the laws and rights laid out in the Constitution.

There are specific ways to alter the laws and rights specified in the Constitution and by bypassing these procedures or ignoring them some men have decided to try to get away with throwing the parts of the Constitution they don’t like away. This is the real issue at hand. I doubt, despite hope, that God will step in and hand us back our Constitutional rights once they are lost.

Our rights come from the framers and they left them to us to protect and defend. Unfortunately, too many today no longer want to take any risk to maintain or restore that Constitution and take down those who would impose tyranny.


60 posted on 02/12/2015 10:54:20 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: rightwingcrazy
“They come from man”

What shocking ignorance. If they come from man, they are not rights at all. They’re just arbitrary “permissions”, to be granted or revoked by those in power, be they in the majority or no.

That's exactly right, which is why the Left is constantly revoking "outdated rights" that they don't believe in. But you just try and revoke one of their "rights" and see how "sacred" they suddenly become!

116 posted on 02/12/2015 12:18:42 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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