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Villa Owned by Ben-Hur's Rival Identified
Discovery News ^ | Friday, February 13, 2015 | Rossella Lorenzi

Posted on 02/19/2015 1:12:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: SunkenCiv

A nice little fixer-upper.


21 posted on 02/19/2015 1:24:17 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: MHT

The villa has Ben-His and Ben-Hur towels.


22 posted on 02/19/2015 1:25:41 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: SunkenCiv

>> While Ben-Hur was a fictional villain ... <<

Uh, Judah Ben Hur was the good guy.


23 posted on 02/19/2015 1:25:57 PM PST by dangus
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To: rightwingintelligentsia; nikos1121

Maybe by “villain” the author meant, “one who lives in a villa”? I mean, it’s close.


24 posted on 02/19/2015 1:30:10 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Obviously the author has an anti-semitic bias.


25 posted on 02/19/2015 1:31:47 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: sauropod

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26 posted on 02/19/2015 1:32:47 PM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: dangus

He was lying about that roof tile incident. Figures.


27 posted on 02/19/2015 1:36:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Corvinus? Wasn't that the name of the original Vampire in the OtherWorld series.


28 posted on 02/19/2015 1:37:18 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: dangus

Pretty sad when the writer hasn’t even seen the movie (or read the book).


29 posted on 02/19/2015 1:37:39 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

nowadays people think “Ben-Hur” is a transexual character


30 posted on 02/19/2015 1:37:59 PM PST by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: DannyTN

She’d be ‘Corvina’.


31 posted on 02/19/2015 1:40:48 PM PST by xone
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To: rightwingintelligentsia; nikos1121; GreyFriar; WayneS; Bloody Sam Roberts; plain talk

The article is screwed up a little, perhaps it’s an ESL problem. I cut for length and generally when I do that I cut out quotes (they’re usually superfluous) unless they’re really informative or unintentionally funny or dopey.

> ...believed to have been owned by Marcus Valerius Messalla Corvinus, portrayed as Ben-Hur in the Hollywood blockbuster...

See, that’s a confused mess, right there, and I thought it was a little amusing.


32 posted on 02/19/2015 1:43:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: MrB; MHT

The real guy was Ben-Daerdundat.


33 posted on 02/19/2015 1:43:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: MrB

Now renamed Ben There.


34 posted on 02/19/2015 1:45:34 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: tophat9000; rightwingintelligentsia

The early screenwriter was the unreconstructed old queen, Gore Vidal, who (by his own account) wanted to be replaced on the picture, after having pointed out that it wasn’t ‘a tale of the Christ’, but a tale about a Jewish boy. He tried to gay it up (limited to an allusion to a childhood proposition by Messalla); later, I think he was also involved in gaying up “Spartacus”.


35 posted on 02/19/2015 1:46:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: Larry Lucido

I could go for a Roman villa, or really a modest but spacious apartment overlooking the sea, or the scenery. Those rich Romans really knew how to live high on everyone else’s hog.


36 posted on 02/19/2015 1:48:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: SunkenCiv

“The vases showed they were made by a Messalla’s slave. Indeed they were stamped with the Latin inscription “Hermia Va(leri) (M)arci s(ervus) fecit,” meaning “Made by Hermias, slave of Marcus Valerius.” [Laura Pagliantini]”

Messalla = Body Mortgager, Exempt One

Hermia = Mortgage Exchange, Stamped and Registered.

Human Trafficking trading.

Note: today on the Worldwide EXCHANGE, it was noted that because the Euro yields so low that the pension funds will have to move out of Europe and go globally elsewhere for sufficient returns.....Guess where, and how the U.S. is using for securing.......Body Mortgage EXCHANGE.


37 posted on 02/19/2015 1:50:05 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: MrB

No, Ben-Hur’s rival was Ben-Thur.


38 posted on 02/19/2015 1:50:50 PM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: MrB

He has a wife, you know...


39 posted on 02/19/2015 1:59:18 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: SunkenCiv
Messalla, of course, was the "bad guy," the boyhood friend and eventual betrayer of Judah Ben Hur in General Lew Wallace's "Tale of the Christ."

Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ

There is nothing to indicate any connection between this Messalla, a Roman family name, and the fictional friend of the equally fictional "Prince of Hur."

General Wallace's 1880 book is on my shortlist of books from the era I look forward to reading soon, though I'm hip deep in the prose of Henry James at the moment. I happened on this information after watching the 1959 remake, earlier this week on TCM.

Very reluctantly, I have to agree the chariot race in the Frances X. Bushman-starring silent was better staged (on the same set).

I know everyone will be happy as a clam to learn that yet another remake is being filmed as we think over these things, to be released in 2016. Morgan Freeman has been cast to play Sheik Ilderim.

More encouraging, I have to think, is that the big-budget big production team includes Mark Burnett and Roma Downey (who also made the recent miniseries The Bible). Hopefully they will not include a silent, faceless Christ, more in line with General Wallace's Tale.

Starring as Ben Hur will be John Huston's grandson Jack.

Down Eros, Up Mars!

40 posted on 02/19/2015 1:59:19 PM PST by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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