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The Mini Thunder Hammer - Impact Weapon
wshootingjournal ^ | 3/16/2015

Posted on 03/16/2015 1:22:16 PM PDT by w1n1

There are many different types of impact weapons considered non-lethal used for self defense like kubotan, keychain, yawara stick, and mini Asp baton to name a few. Not too many people have heard of or think to carry a mini size hammer, otherwise known as the mini thunder hammer. With the added weight and design the mini thunder can be used to generate devastating impact.

Doug Marcaida a Filipino Martial Arts Expert consultant for various Government agencies on “Weapons of Opportunity”. In this segment Doug demonstrate techniques and strikes with the mini thunder.

What’s unique is that this demonstration isn’t performed in the one or three step kata type that most traditional martial artists uses.

The technique is applied in a free flow type of drill known as “Hubbad” (not the full name, sorry) in the Filipino martial arts, the phrase means to tie and untie. The hubbad drill can be trained while using sticks, knives and empty hands at the close quarter range (within arms reach). The idea behind all this is to apply the technique and strikes while in motion during the block and counter exchange. Check it out here.


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To: TigersEye

I bent an Estwing, once. Give me a good Stanley I-Beam with overstrike protection.


21 posted on 03/16/2015 4:24:33 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: w1n1

The ultimate weapon if somebody comes at you with a board with a nail in it.


22 posted on 03/16/2015 4:41:33 PM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: uglybiker

"Ooh, want to learn to defend yourself against pointed sticks, do we? Gettin' all high and mighty, eh?"

23 posted on 03/16/2015 4:53:23 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: TigersEye
22 oz. straight claw

Parked next to the bed.

Keeps the `21 company.

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24 posted on 03/16/2015 5:58:05 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That ASP baton is great for whats intended for. In certain jurisdictions though the stubby claw hammer is far easier to explain away. I try not to carry what I can’t explain away. Not always but I try. I always figure that LE will get involved at some point and I will have to explain myself. No law against carrying a ball peen hammer yet.


25 posted on 03/16/2015 6:44:02 PM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: Polynikes

Where do you live that you can’t carry that baton?


26 posted on 03/16/2015 6:44:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: w1n1

“I’m only going to use my thumb”...

Seriously, though...I have a flashlight on my belt that is equally effective and would pass most security.


27 posted on 03/16/2015 6:45:39 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: njslim
"Try getting on a plane totting a hammer......"
28 posted on 03/16/2015 9:08:42 PM PDT by Redcitizen
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To: Jaxter

29 posted on 03/16/2015 9:15:26 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: gundog

I don’t know how you did that. I’ve used the rigging axe to pry against nails and pry boards apart against the side of the neck nearly to the point of breaking and never put a bend in it. I’ve done everything you can conceivably do in construction with the straight claw hammer.


30 posted on 03/16/2015 10:58:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (STONE COLD ZOMBIE SCOURGE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
California. An ambitious ADA will use that to undermine any self defense claim by trying to show intent on your part to look for trouble by carrying a baton or billy club which is illegal to do.

http://www.my-self-defense.com/expandable-baton-laws.html

http://www.my-self-defense.com/expandable-baton-laws.html#californiajumpto

They consider it a “dangerous weapon” along the lines of a blackjack,billy or sap.

The revised codes are PENAL CODE
SECTION 22210-22295 which is a misdemeanor for possession and I could see it ratcheted up to felony assault depending on the circumstances it was used in. Ain't California law great./s This is definitely a risk in larger metro areas like LA or SF unless you take off immediately after using it. TTS (Tune em up, Take off and Shut up)

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=22001-23000&file=22210-22295

31 posted on 03/16/2015 11:17:30 PM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: TigersEye

Yeah! Estwing 22 oz. long-handle straight claw. Best framing hammer in the world, imo.


32 posted on 03/17/2015 5:08:00 AM PDT by olepap (Your old Pappy)
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To: olepap; TigersEye

+1 for the 22 Eastwing. You can build up or tear down anything with that badboy.


33 posted on 03/17/2015 5:28:22 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TigersEye

It was done in deconstruction. We were told to demo a room. This was in the military. Given free reign like that, a couple of guys started hurling hammers through walls. Pretty soon, all the hammers are being thrown until there isn’t enough drywall to make it fun. An Estwing hit a stud and took a gentle curve to one side. It was actually a bit of an ergonomic improvement.


34 posted on 03/17/2015 11:24:16 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: TalonDJ; olepap
You can build up or tear down anything with that badboy.

Amen to that! I started with a 22 oz. smooth face because we were doing siding as well as framing. A couple of years later I got the rigging axe with the waffle face and then another 22 oz. with the waffle face.

After about eight years of daily use I lost my original smooth face. Left it on top of my full bed tool box at the end of a long day. So I ground the waffles off of the other one. About ten years after that I found a near new smooth face lying on a dirt road in the middle of Nowhere, NM so I took a file and a hacksaw to the other one and re-waffled it.

35 posted on 03/17/2015 1:22:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (STONE COLD ZOMBIE SCOURGE)
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To: gundog
That must have been one heck of a throw to do that. In most cases I'd expect the handle to break before it bent.

It was actually a bit of an ergonomic improvement.

I can see how that would work. The one complaint I've heard is that an all steel hammer is more likely to cause carpenter's elbow than wooden handled hammers but I never got it.

36 posted on 03/17/2015 1:32:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (STONE COLD ZOMBIE SCOURGE)
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