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To: McGruff

I lived here in the 70s.

My father flew small planes; I took my first ride at 2 weeks old and flew with my father frequently as a young boy.

I’m an airplane fanatic and I’m always noting the planes and the sky and the weather. For say 45 years.

I know clear, and I know haze.

Haze sometimes happens naturally.

Haze at 30,000 feet, much more rare.

This haze at that alt every day for months... impossible without someone putting it there.

Various governments publicly admit to “cloud seeding”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

It’s not “conspiracy theory” if the person doing the act admits to the act.


41 posted on 04/19/2015 11:45:38 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

You know when Bill Gates wants to do “cloud seeding” in New Mexico, that they’ve already been doing it there forever. All reports from that front are the same - their clear, deep blue skies, likely gone forever.

The weather talking heads are told to lie or lose their jobs. They’ve invented all sorts of names for the “new” “clouds.” All over the planet.


48 posted on 04/19/2015 11:52:58 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: PieterCasparzen
Seen any A-10s fly over?

I'm still betting on the Chris Christie theory.

50 posted on 04/19/2015 11:54:04 AM PDT by McGruff (Maybe my comments are too nuanced for some.)
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To: PieterCasparzen
I would hope you would realize that “cloud seeding” is not planting seeds in the sky to grow clouds. It is putting easily known particulates into the updrafts and down drafts of growing thunderheads to give water something to gather around and get big enough to fall as rain and before it becomes large hail. I know some of these pilots.
61 posted on 04/19/2015 12:24:17 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind (U S Troops Rock)
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To: PieterCasparzen
"Haze at 30,000 feet, much more rare."

Look up descriptions of the various kinds of clouds and the altitude ranges of those clouds. It's really always been quite common, more common during some times than others. Long term changes in weather patterns are normal. Just be glad that you're not here in the dry West now.


73 posted on 04/19/2015 12:48:15 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

I’m just curious if anybody has run the numbers on the immense amounts that would be needed of whatever “secret chemical” is being used to make these chemtrails. The fuel that is actually creating these contrails, after all, is many tons.

Has anyone questioned the hundreds of thousands of airline workers that would have to be involved in loading and recharging the secret sprayer tanks?

Just last week I took a couple of short jet flights. Out of curiosity I watched the entire luggage, trash, fuel, supplies ballet. Whole thing took well under half an hour.

When exactly were these secret chemicals loaded on, and why don’t any of the workers involved rat the process out?

I’m perfectly willing to believe in people evil enough to engage in such conspiracies. I just like to see some logical explanation of how the conspiracy is even possible.

When you burn jet fuel (or most other things) the primary combustion product is water vapor. In fact, you get a little more than a gallon of water when you burn a gallon of kerosene.

When water vapor is released in cold conditions, as at altitude, it immediately condenses and freezes. Pretty much the exact same process by which clouds are formed.

There may actually be something to the notion of contrails contributing to high-altitude haze. It’s just really tin-foilish to think there’s some secret plot involved. No, just a lot of airplanes.


80 posted on 04/19/2015 1:00:27 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: PieterCasparzen
Various governments publicly admit to “cloud seeding”.

Cloud seeding has been going on for decades but with one hitch: It requires "clouds", it doesn't MAKE clouds.......

89 posted on 04/19/2015 1:18:29 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (November 2016 shall be set aside as rodent removal month.)
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