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Are There Any Freeper Truck Drivers Out There? (Vanity)
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Posted on 05/31/2015 4:50:53 PM PDT by Vigilanteman

This is the situation. I am late 50s in the corporate world of supply chain management. I've done OK, though not spectacular and gone about as far as I can go. We are empty nesters now and my mother, for whom I was the primary care giver, passed away about six months ago.

The present corporate world is giving signals that my work, which they were formerly quite happy with, is all of a sudden, a topic of petty complaints. I believe it is time to look for a new career.

I see tons of ads for truck drivers promising a minimum of $60K annual income (about what I am making now) with benefits better than I am getting now. Some, such as the link, are even volunteering to train you for a CDL as long as you commit a minimum of one year to them after you graduate.

It sounds to good to be true, but since I work in logistics and deal with a lot of vendors who have trouble finding and scheduling trucks, even from locations within a 6-8 hour driving range, I think "could be."

One of the things I think I would enjoy about being on the road a lot would be being away from all of the PC, petty, unproductive office politics. I worked my way through college driving cabs and delivery vehicles, though none of the variety requiring a CDL. I can honestly say I enjoyed the work from meeting different people to the solitude of the road between fares or deliveries.


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What is it really like? Am I dreaming or is this a realistic Plan B?
1 posted on 05/31/2015 4:50:53 PM PDT by Vigilanteman
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To: Vigilanteman

Arent you just trading office problems for truck driver/dispatch problems? I mean they say awhole list of things about ow you wont be overworked and wont this or that, but then you wind up driving more than you are told you will, longer days and fib in your travel logbook, theyve got trackers in the cabs, some have governors, reimbursment problems, etc.

Everything I have heard from rruck driver people I talk with is that they all really enjoyed local truck driving gigs far more than long haul. Driving that you could go home to every night.


2 posted on 05/31/2015 4:57:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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There is a lot of pressure to work 14 hour days or more and a professional driver cannot afford to make more than a few mistakes, no matter how tired they might be or new.

I’m working towards getting my professional chauffer’s license. However, I’m apprenticing for working for a funeral home. They will take older people who can still work. If you’re healthy and not put off by dead bodies, that could be a viable career and you could make about what you are making now in a couple of years.


3 posted on 05/31/2015 4:57:36 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Vigilanteman
It sounds to good to be true, but since I work in logistics and deal with a lot of vendors who have trouble finding and scheduling trucks, even from locations within a 6-8 hour driving range, I think "could be."

Sounds like you have some good sources to talk with right now.

25ish years ago, when I was still an LT in the Army I remember two Bird Colonels, husband and wife, retired and hit the road as long haul truckers. Never heard from them again but I often wonder how long they stayed on the road.

Best wishes as you sort this out.

4 posted on 05/31/2015 5:01:08 PM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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To: Vigilanteman
I was laid off about a year ago and I'm retirement age.

I also considered a truck driving career change and looked into C.E. England too.

I read the reviews about them from graduate drivers and the majority were negative.

It is free training and licensure, but they try to make you lease trucks from them for outrageous fees and other slight-of-hand scams.

So, bottom line: Let the buyer beware.

It does cost between $5-$6K to get trained and get a CDL; that might be a safer choice.

Oh, I did end up retiring :-)

5 posted on 05/31/2015 5:01:43 PM PDT by PROCON (CRUZing into 2016 with Ted.)
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This family was involved in the office end of major trucking company, and our recommendation to a FRiend is IF you want to be on the road, meet people, have a life DON’T INVOLVE YOURSELF WITH THE BIG guys. IF you like being abused, run ragged, screwed, and made to feel less than a human, then go for it.

IF you can afford the school yourself, then perhaps you could look at becoming an owner operator, and tie in with a company running specific lanes. You then could control your own destiny without being at the mercy of a bunch of l-I-a-r-s, which is how one spells dispatcher these days.

It’s an ugly life running a company rig at the mercy of a bunch of clowns looking out for themselves.

FWIW This family was involved in BIG Trucking for 35 years.


6 posted on 05/31/2015 5:02:01 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: Vigilanteman
I know a few things about the industry. I'm not a driver, but the work I do for various public-sector clients (including state DOTs and the Federal Highway Administration) requires me to work with trucking industry representatives on a regular basis.

One bit of advice I would offer is that there's a huge difference between a "local" driver (who returns to the same location every day) and an "over-the-road" (OTR) driver (who spends many days away from home at a time. The local driver is typically paid on an hourly basis, while the OTR driver is paid on a per-mile basis. The OTR pay system is fraught with headaches and inefficiencies, since you can only drive limited hours per day and per week, and you have no control over things like weather delays, congestion, delays at loading docks (you're considered on-duty when the truck is being unloaded but you aren't getting paid for the time), etc.

The turnover rate in the long-haul trucking business is very high, for the reasons I've described.

Let me know via Freep-mail if you have any specific opportunities that you want to run past me, and I'll see what other advice I can give you.

7 posted on 05/31/2015 5:05:51 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ( "It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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The reason businesses can’t schedule trucks is because the big trucking outfits ran the independents into the ground and working for the bigs sucks. Pay for the most part is crap, long hours, lots of time away, or if you are short haul lots of cargo to handle, government regs that compromise your license, pressure to make time, and 1 infraction or accident and you are out the door. Not all driving jobs are like this but the cream jobs go to the best most experienced drivers. The industry is short something like 200,000 drivers, think about why in this economy. I sense a shift in the industry lately, so who knows.


8 posted on 05/31/2015 5:08:59 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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I used to work with some truckers. I remember one guy whose name, believe it or not was Diesel. He had gotten himself deeply in debt and was paying it off at a thousand dollars a week. He was managing OK but keeping his fingers crossed that his truck did not require any major repairs.

What that told me was that he was dealing in a lot of money and this was back in the 80s. A lot of risk but a lot of money to be made.

I did get the impression that they worked pretty hard.


9 posted on 05/31/2015 5:10:02 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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TMC
http://www.tmcjobs.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQjw4qqrBRDE2K_z7Pbvjo8BEiQA39AImVlg2M86OxLyHJ-LrhXWLZymSSdYbT9-VumSZ-Ku4ScaAi2l8P8HAQ


10 posted on 05/31/2015 5:18:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Vigilanteman

I can’t give you any advice on a career change but there is a trucker on YouTube that my kids like watching. He has a few videos on what it’s like as a career. Just search for Trucker Josh.


11 posted on 05/31/2015 5:22:04 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Baltimore needs more Armed Koreans)
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To: VTenigma
The industry is short something like 200,000 drivers, think about why in this economy.

I saw something like this in an article the other day, and wondered what the heck was going on.

12 posted on 05/31/2015 5:28:13 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Vigilanteman

It’s not truck driving but a retired friend got a job re-positioning rental cars. Part time and he was home most nights.

Some Jr colleges have driver training courses for CDLs.


13 posted on 05/31/2015 5:30:01 PM PDT by Rockpile
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My Dad was both a city driver and an OTR trucker hauling new trucks and cars as well as working on the railroad with a piggy packer, loading truck trailers onto flatbed train cars.
He never owned his own truck. His favorite job was working as an air freight driver using a fairly small truck for short citywide jaunts where he was home every night and the hours were regular.

After most of his kids were grown he took the OTR job because of layoff and he actually enjoyed it, but that was because the company he worked for had no problem with the wife and kids staying in the hotel they paid for [they encouraged it to prevent marital troubles I suppose, which could lead to good drivers quitting.] That company did not have him staying in dumpy hotels, either. He couldn’t have done it with young kids but it was fine with teens and in some ways he got more family time as an OTR trucker than as a city driver. We would drive to meet him on some weekends and we would visit things like the Air Force museum in Ohio, the beaches on the Gulf, or just some attraction he thought we all could enjoy. And there was a lot less rivalry and sabotage from jealous coworkers than he’d seen at the city job- no one was together in one place long enough to develop much dislike for others.

The job required a good deal more care than a regular truck though, because they were hauling new I import vehicles from the port to rail terminals along with new cars made at various US plants, to dealerships, sometimes with special order vehicles, and the vehicles were exposed to the elements, vandals, and everything from hail to low tree branches, road debris, to illegals trying to sneak rides, and just general screw-ups like slipped chains cracking windows, etc, and nothing is pickier than a special order new car owner.
And in some small towns the arrival of a truck loaded with cars was as good as the arrival of a world renowned celebrity- people literally set up lawn chairs and coolers to watch truckers unload vehicles, especially if they are waiting for their own.


14 posted on 05/31/2015 5:30:23 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Don't let FR fade away!

15 posted on 05/31/2015 5:48:09 PM PDT by RedMDer (Keep Free Republic Alive with YOUR Donations!)
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To: Vigilanteman
giving signals that my work, which they were formerly quite happy with, is all of a sudden, a topic of petty complaints.

I lived that very situation. It only gets worse as time passes. At first you try to step it up, then you realize that there is nothing you can do to fix it and toss in the towel while you wait for the inevitable.

There is no reason to get out of your current line of work, take your skills and go somewhere else.

16 posted on 05/31/2015 5:51:52 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Vigilanteman
I am in the trucking industry. I am not a driver, but I work with trucking companies, and truck drivers. It is a tough job. You may make $60k, or even more, but that's not a 40 hour work week. It's more like a 60 or 70 hour work week. Over the road drivers probably get paid a little more than local drivers, but then they're home maybe once every 2-3 weeks.

The upside is there is definitely a truck somewhere with your name on it. If you have a CDL, even if you have no experience, if you demonstrate you can drive without hitting anything, and if you can even remotely show up on time, you've got a job. Every carrier I know has 10 trucks sitting against the fence, empty. Drivers are impossible to get, which probably means that pay will at some point go even higher.

Send me a private FReepmail if you want more details. Good luck!

17 posted on 05/31/2015 5:53:05 PM PDT by Big E
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I look at tax returns from truck drivers almost on a daily basis. Right now an average owner/operator who is buying 1 truck and 1 trailer grosses $200,000 to $250,000 per year. By the time he gets done paying for fuel, repairs, insurance, finance costs, etc., that same trucker will take home $40,000 to $45,000. We see some truckers grossing as little as $150,000, and some grossing as much as $300,000. It’s pretty rare to see an owner/operator net $50,000 or more with 1 truck/trailer.

On the other hand, we see company drivers making $60,000 to $70,000 per year (but with lots of years of service) and they want to switch to being an owner/operator since they think they’ll make a ton more money. In reality, they get more freedom, but there’s almost no way to make that much money as a non-company driver. Keeping rigs on the road is expensive. A local-haul (200 mile radius) company driver can probably expect to make right around $50,000.

If you pay for your CDL training up front to be an owner/operator, you’ll probably pay 20-30% interest to get your truck financed since you have no CDL experience. Most finance companies want 2 years time in business and the ones who do new drivers charge a lot for the risk. Your best bet is to work for a trucking company for 2 years, then switch to an owner/operator if you’re interested. At that point, you’d have 2 years of driving experience and could probably find someone to finance up to $75,000 for a truck for around 10% interest (this due to you being a “startup”).


18 posted on 05/31/2015 6:07:46 PM PDT by Dexter Morgan (Everyone hides who they are.)
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To: Vigilanteman; Kathy in Alaska; blackie
I wish you could have known a wonderful FReeper blackie. Except for a stint in the Navy, I believe blackie spent his life driving big rigs.

He was most wonderful man.....could be tough as nails and gentle as a kitten. He is missed around these parts. He would have been a fantastic resource for you.

Kathy in alaska made a lovely thread in his memory. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3066948/posts


RIP Blackie Owens 10-1930 to 9-2013

19 posted on 05/31/2015 6:07:49 PM PDT by Daffynition ("We Are Not Descended From Fearful Men")
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after the electronic repair business was going south I went to a job fair, saw people for truck driving I took a short test at the site was told I would qualify all my schooling was paid for by a grant from the lottery went to school for 3 weeks and upon finishing the classes I was hired on the spot by a trucking company one of the many that were their. I worked with a partner we did well together I enjoyed the traveling we drove 5 hours on 5 hours off mostly east coast to west coast we made good money sometimes a bonus for early delivery of a load. some times the runs were bad we didn’t care for airport runs or hazard material runs but all in all enjoyed the driving. we would work for 3 or 4 weeks at a time then 6 or 7 days off home time. was hard for me as I had wife with young children but unless you have some over the road experience local driving jobs wont hire you at least that was my experience. I left after a year collected my bonus for signing up and secured a local 40 hour a week job which I had for about 12 years before retiring. one good part was the sights you would see in cars from the cab of the truck LOL the stories I could tell you.


20 posted on 05/31/2015 6:09:19 PM PDT by bikerman (2015 new motto--- slugs for thugs.)
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