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Not brushing your teeth can trigger dementia and heart disease
Daily Mail ^ | June 1, 2015 | Christoffer Van Tulleken

Posted on 06/01/2015 5:25:47 PM PDT by rickmichaels

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To: kruss3

The human fossil record is pretty short on cavities, as are the rare hunter-gatherer societies still remaining. All these problems arose with the adaptation of agriculture and a processed, grain-based diet.


61 posted on 06/01/2015 8:20:13 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (All freedom must be transported in bottles of 3 oz or less. - Freeper relictele)
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To: To Hell With Poverty

The fossil record indicates humans began shrinking their brains 30k years ago. The underlying cause of gum disease and virtually all of the inflammatory/degenerative diseases is the retention of excess intracellular iron. There are at least 70 peer reviewed publications from 2014 where researchers from around the globe mentioned iron chelation as a therapeutic option in heart disease, cancer, diabetes, stroke, tbi, ptsd,autoimmune conditions etc. We can currently track the relative gray matter shrinkage in infants from the first bottle of iron fortified formula milk.


62 posted on 06/01/2015 8:29:52 PM PDT by kruss3
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To: Yardstick
Is it possible a better approach would be to encourage a healthy mouth flora rather than try to wipe it out?

It's best to keep them out of your blood stream. They are pretty innocuous in your mouth or in your alimentary and digestive tract. But if you have bleeding gums, you've opened a superhighway into your bloodstream direct to everything through the skin barrier. If all of your gums are bleeding, you have an open sore the size of the palm of your hand.

Your gums are a seal between your bones that stick out from your body (we call those bones "Teeth") and the nasty things in the outside world we don't want inside our gooey insides.

We have been testing patients for about ten years now. . . and about 15% of the patients we test have ZERO spirochetes (I am one of those as was my mother who lived to 96). Those people live to healthily into their real old age without developing the plaque related diseases of hardened arteries, heart disease, type 2 adult onset diabetes, Age related dementia, Alzheimers, etc. etc. etc. We do not have any clue as to why that minority of tested people seem to be immune to oral spirochetes. However, there is an even smaller minority that have NO bacteria in their mouths at all. Perfect teeth, no bacteria living in their mouths. Zip, nada, none. Those make up about half of one percent of the population. Very healthy people.

So the ideal, is maintaining the gums against whatever you have in your mouth. We do know that spirochetes attack the gums (one species causes a disease called Yaws). Yaws is caused by a spirochete called Treponema pallidum Pertenue, related to spirochete that causes syphilis, which is T. Pallidum Pallidum. The Tertiary and Quaternary stages of both diseases are almost indistinguishable from each other. But Yaws is caused by an Oral Spirochete.


Yaws afflicted Aftrican Man

63 posted on 06/01/2015 8:33:02 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: kruss3
Funny thing: none of the other primates brush their teeth or suffer gray matter shrinkage, or neuro-degenerative diseases, or Alzheimer’s. I smell a simple commordity.

Are you sure of that. . . or have they just not lived long enough with a large enough population to experience it? The disease progression has a minimum 30-40 year progression before even the most minimal symptoms appear in humans? How many chimps, great apes, etc, live that long? Has anyone done a study of dementia in aging ape populations? How about diabetic apes? Chronic heart and artery disease in great apes in a large population as they age? Not an easy thing to do.

We are even having trouble getting a large data base of the flora and fauna in the mouths of older people. We've enlisted a lot of dentists to do it and what we are finding is consistent but it needs to be studied more than the population of people who go to the dentist! For the most part, that's a self-selected population of people who care for their oral hygiene. We should be checking all ages in all types of people over a long period. That takes funding and many people participating. . . plus we need to look at other factors.

I would agree that there may be some other factors at work as well. . . we just don't know at this point. However, all of these diseases rose during he 20th Century to epidemic proportions in the populations and also spread with the use of toothpaste over the use of alternative means of teeth cleaning and oral hygiene. The correlation is striking as those American practices spread throughout the world, followed consistently 20-50 years later by an extraordinary rise in these diseases associated with oral spirochetes.

Hell, the level of research on spirochetes is so low we do not even know how they reproduce or where! Their life cycle is unknown. There is a theory they can only reproduce in the mouth. . . which would be a blessing. But how do you remove them once they've entered the blood stream? They don't seem to respond well to antibiotic therapies. Some have been affected by raising the blood levels of chlorine. . . but that's not a good treatment modality, but it does seem to kill blood borne spirochetes. Another means is ozone therapy.

64 posted on 06/01/2015 8:50:11 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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Will the bleach erode the teeth enamel? After treating your mouth with the Dakin's Solution, do you have to brush again to remove the bleach from the teeth?

I appreciate the information, thank you for posting.

65 posted on 06/01/2015 8:51:53 PM PDT by GregoTX (Remember the Alamo)
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To: BeauBo
What do you think of electric toothbrushes, like Sonicare or Oral-B? How about Water Piks?

We push all three and especially the Water Pik approach to get the Dakin's solution as far down into the hard to reach areas. One of our dentists uses Dakin's daily with a power irrigator. There are several makes that do just fine.

66 posted on 06/01/2015 8:51:59 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: GregoTX
Will the bleach erode the teeth enamel? After treating your mouth with the Dakin's Solution, do you have to brush again to remove the bleach from the teeth?

No, it won't. At this solution, it is weak enough to avoid any damage. Don't use it any stronger. If you do, it will dissolve skin. That's why bleach feels slimy, You can rinse out with ordinary water and it will turn any residue left to salt water instantly. . . which it will do anyway.

67 posted on 06/01/2015 8:56:48 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Thank you for the very interesting and informative post.


68 posted on 06/01/2015 9:02:26 PM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: SisterK
Thank you for the very interesting and informative post.

You are welcome. . .

69 posted on 06/01/2015 9:04:55 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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How can a person have zero bacteria in the mouth? I have trouble believing that, or that that’s the ideal. Maybe no spirochetes, but no bacteria at all? Just seems next to impossible unless you’re full of antibiotics. Is it documented in the literature that 1 in 200 people has zero bacteria?

Is it conventionally understood that arterial plaques are composed of dead spirochetes? Like has this been proven and accepted? And is it known that the spirochetes are the kind of that live in the mouth?

The common spirochetes in the mouth, they’re not the same ones that cause yaws and syphillis, correct?


70 posted on 06/01/2015 9:15:56 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Swordmaker

Hey Swordmaker,

You are an intelligent person. Reread every word in my post at least three more times. Every word is true. We can currently track the relative gray matter shrinkage in infants from the first bottle of iron fortified formula milk. The pathology is underway before the kids have teeth and any other evidence of disease. The iron causes the gray matter shrinkage and is continuous throughout life. We can reverse the cell senescence with iron chelators and improve cognition/working memory in Down syndrome individuals.


71 posted on 06/01/2015 9:27:09 PM PDT by kruss3
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To: rickmichaels

BTTT


72 posted on 06/01/2015 10:10:23 PM PDT by asyouwish (Philippians 4:8)
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To: kruss3

So what can be done to reduce excess intracellular iron, as a practical matter, for an average guy?


73 posted on 06/01/2015 10:14:29 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Yardstick
How can a person have zero bacteria in the mouth? I have trouble believing that, or that that’s the ideal. Maybe no spirochetes, but no bacteria at all? Just seems next to impossible unless you’re full of antibiotics. Is it documented in the literature that 1 in 200 people has zero bacteria?

We had trouble believe it also when we first observed it. Zero bacteria. We took multiple samples from their mouths. We'd find flora, but no fauna. Nothing moving. Dead bacteria from food, etc., but nothing alive. We would LOVE to know why these particular people were anathema to bacteria in their mouths. They were invariably extremely healthy people with beautiful teeth. There was no racial or ethnic division that we could see on the limited samples we had. . . under ten in our office. Other office reported similar small numbers with similar findings. Perhaps something they ate or drank in their diets, perhaps some level of acidity in their saliva, perhaps something in their environment. We did not have the means to test any of that.

Dr. Judit McKlosky has several papers showing exactly what you are asking about the plaque composition in peer reviewed journals. . . I've read them. She is the head of the European Alzheimers Prevention Society. . . and yes, they are oral spirochetes. However, observing spirochetes in blood is EXTREMELY difficult because they have the same transparency as water and glass. . . and you need an expensive version of a microscope, called a phase-contrast microscope, and it has to be very high quality, to even begin to see the living ones. Ours cost over $15,000. . . and most dental offices won't even make the investment. . . and medical doctors don't do anything with the mouth. Shhhhh! That's the dirty secret divide of medicine. MDs don't do anything with the mouth and teeth, which is where everything enters the body, AND it's the only place where the bones of the body stick out into the air. . . and the high and mighty medical doctors essentially won't talk to dentists and oral surgeons (who have just as much anatomy and medicine study as MDs). Really silly turf war, isn't it?

Yaws does invade through the mouth, so it can be called an oral spirochete, but all of these can be dangerous elsewhere. So can syphilis, but not preferentially. There are about nine that live pretty much in the mouth. Yaws attacks the gums and then spreads.

74 posted on 06/01/2015 10:16:10 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: kruss3
You are an intelligent person. Reread every word in my post at least three more times. Every word is true. We can currently track the relative gray matter shrinkage in infants from the first bottle of iron fortified formula milk. The pathology is underway before the kids have teeth and any other evidence of disease. The iron causes the gray matter shrinkage and is continuous throughout life. We can reverse the cell senescence with iron chelators and improve cognition/working memory in Down syndrome individuals.

I read it. I discounted it. Who is "We" in "We can". . . and where are these 50-60 articles published? I am curious because there are hundreds of "scientific journals" that publish on payment from the authors. . . and their "peer-reviewed" articles are bogus hokum. In other words, some published articles are not worth the spit to make spit wads out of them.

For example, how do you track the "shrinkage of gray matter over 30K years in the fossil record, when I know of very few human brains that have ever been fossilized. . . and there are VERY few fossils that are as young as 30K years.

That's just one of the reasons I discounted it: on the face of it, it's a false claim.

Secondly, the human body is an extremely efficient machine at extracting from normal dietary intake what it needs to include in its cellular structure and to remove from its structure what it does not need. It excretes what it doesn't need. . . especially iron. The effect of LEAD in the environment over the period in question is much more striking in the brains of children in our inner cities and it is HARD to quantify its effects. The effects of the drugs and alcohol their parents injected, ingested and inhaled while the child was in utero or the spermatozoa was being formed probably has one hell of a lot more effect on brain growth and size in the time that milk and bread had iron fortified vitamins added as a component than anything you can claim is caused by someone who really cannot make a causal relation based on any statistical claims. Correlation is NOT causation. . . even for oral spirochetes and the 95% correlation that Dr. McKlosky has identified until she applied Hills and Koch's criteria and proved it.

Complete cellular chelation of Iron would be very difficult considering Iron is a necessary component of blood. . . which anyone would know who has a basic understanding of the Oxygen transportation system in our bodies. One chelates people who suffer from Hemochromatosis, an over abundance of red blood cells either through illness or through transfusions. Iron Chelation can have serious side effects if not monitored by a qualified medical doctor. Yes, there does seem possible a benefit for some Down Syndrome persons. . . but at this point nothing has been clinically proved. Obviously you believe that diet can solve every problem. Would that were true. It isn't.

75 posted on 06/01/2015 10:48:20 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: rickmichaels

Save this!


76 posted on 06/02/2015 5:26:22 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Swordmaker

Thank you so much. Do you have a dilution for bigger volumes, because I want to fill up my waterpik at the correct concentration, and if I do it cap by cap, it’s going to take a long time!


77 posted on 06/02/2015 5:29:00 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Swordmaker

Lots of bridge work here and root canals etc...How about this mixture in my water pic..Dentist sez its not as good as flossing and a brush but it sounds like it may be good to blast the 20:1 way down in??


78 posted on 06/02/2015 6:35:56 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Swordmaker
Read this?

Nutrition and Physical Degeneration

79 posted on 06/02/2015 6:40:28 AM PDT by pa_dweller (If just one life can be saved, isn't CCW worth it?)
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To: Red Boots

20 to 1

Me not good a measuring and volumes butI dont think using the cap is mandatory find a slightly larger measuring vessel and use it 20:1


80 posted on 06/02/2015 6:48:27 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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