Posted on 06/07/2015 2:33:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Why doesn’t right or wrong enter into this as much as some may think?
Take a job he doesn’t want to pay his bills?
Like 90% of the taxpayers, bank stockholders, etc., that he’s forcing to pay his bills for him have done.
I will say that Josh was wrong.
I will say that people who want to protect children are right.
So: Right and Wrong DO enter into this.
But can we can ANYTHING at all with a bit of nuance? Or are we mandated to simply say that Josh is a bad, vile, hateful person?
Because that seems a tad simplistic to me.
My apologies! posted to the wrong thread! I think that’s the first time I’ve done that!
***Master of Philosophy: Columbia University***
“Oh, A Bull s#1t artist!”-from Mel Brooks’ HISTORY OF THE WORLD PART 1.
I also think that the entire financial system is a based on fraud and greed and is not workable at all. It's gamed by people like Soros. It will come crashing down. And when it comes crashing down -- when it takes a wheelbarrow full of money to buy groceries, a lot of people will not be honoring their debt. It's coming.
Some people will be the first to throw up their hands and say "The game is rigged! I won't play!". They will be both dishonorable and smarter than the rest of us.
A deadbeat's a deadbeat. Mr. Siegel is as low on the bottom of the ocean as whale turds and Wall Street firms.
Look for Obama to issue an executive order forgiving student loan debt before he departs the White House.
This BS won't stop until colleges have to cosign these loans.
He knows he is a deadbeat but has yet to come to terms with the fact that he is a self centered dick.
I did not think that it was possible to discharge student loan debts in bankruptcy. If he did not declare bankruptcy and just stopped paying on the debt, that just means he will have no medicare or social security when he reaches retirement age (if he expected any to begin with).
RE: “Oh, A Bull s#1t artist!”-from Mel Brooks’ HISTORY OF THE WORLD PART 1.
Job Description ( as per the character Comicus, played by Mel Brooks) :
“I coalesce the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful comprehension. ..”
Amen! I wish I could transfer my GI Bill bennies to my soon to be college-bound kid. I guess bound is the operative term here.
That’s okay—but you haven’t really explained the “nuance” you see that makes this other than an issue of right or wrong.
Yes, he’s a deadbeat...but...is he really any more of a deadbeat than GM or Chrysler, who, through years of mismanagement ended up being social welfare companies that, oh by the way, also made cars and trucks. The bond and shareholders were shafted while the management and unions made out. And what about the colleges and universities that kept raising their tuitions forcing their students to mortgage their futures, and the Federal government that subsidized loans, thus subverting their true cost, and the finance companies that gladly wrote the loans even though they should’ve known they’d probably not be repaid (hence the change making the loans exempt from bankrupcy)
To quote Judge Smails from Caddyshack: Well, the world needs ditch diggers too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiRGRvE_Wqg
Instead of guaranteeing loans, the government would have to guarantee a college education. There are a lot of people who could learn to live with that, too.
And that would be as successful as the guaranteed high school education now. Just imagine fights over common core for a bachelor's degree.
The author almost makes the connection from the high cost of education to the free flow of government guaranteed money, either through grants or loans. But then he swerves off and suggests that all of higher education be nationalized. He saw the light at the end of the tunnel, but slammed into the tunnel wall to avoid it.
So Lee Siegel shows up at the local Albertsons, at the crack of 10:30 am, for his first day of work.
Lee greets the Manager and shakes his hand!
The Manager gives Lee a brand new broom.
Lee stutters, buttt butt I have a Master of Philosophy from Columbia University!!!
The Store Manager is gobsmacked, then apologizes for the misunderstanding. Lee, look here, I will show you how to use a Broom
Deadbeat | 1. a person who deliberately avoids paying debts. 2. a loafer; sponger. adjective
If the shoe fits .....
Nobody forced him to go to that school.
Nobody forced him to take out loans.
Nobody forced him to to rack up massiver personal debt.
Once he got worried about debt nobody forced him to continue going to the school instead of going to a less expensive school.
Nobody forced him to take a crappy major that wasn’t worth half of what he paid for it.
Nobody forced him into a field of study that is not a high paying field, but it sure can be an easy major to do a lot of partying while at school.
PERSONAL CHOICES AND PERSONAL CONSEQUENCES.
All the academic losers, who took easy stupid majors, are now frmaing themselves as victims of the system. They want everyone else to bail them out because it’s unfair their education cost so much and now they can’t make big bucks like people who studied hard and graduated with degrees that will get them good work earning decent to very good money.
I saw all these types at school. They were the ones drunk walking down the street to the next party, while I was coming home from the library from studying. ANd I was going home to keep studying.
If there were justice in this world, he'd lose his house, car and job, and his paycheck would be encumbered to pay back the loan in full– with interest accruing the entire time.
While we're on it, in keeping with the tactics of the Left, I propose that we prosecute Climate Change Promoters with feloniously trying to cause a panic– same as yelling fire in a movie house. Jail the lying sob's.
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