Posted on 06/18/2015 12:51:59 PM PDT by concernedcitizen76
(Excerpted list of mass shootings and their connections to psychiatric drugs)
Tallahassee, Florida – November 20, 2014: 31-year-old Myron May, a Florida State University alum, opened fire in the school’s library, wounding three before he was shot and killed by police. ABC Action News found a half-filled prescription for the antianxiety drug Hydroxyzine in his apartment after the shooting. In addition, according to May’s friends, he had seen a psychologist and had been prescribed the antidepressant Wellbutrin and the ADHD drug Vyvanse. He also checked himself in to a mental health center called Mesilla Valley Hospital around September of 2014. Shortly after this, his friends discovered the antipsychotic Seroquel among his prescriptions.
Seattle, Washington – June 5, 2014: 26-year-old Aaron Ybarra opened fire with a shotgun at Seattle Pacific University, killing one student and wounding two others. Ybarra planned to kill as many people as possible and then kill himself. In 2012, Ybarra reported that he had been prescribed the antidepressant Prozac and antipsychotic Risperdal. A report from his counselor in December of 2013 said that he was taking Prozac at the time and planned to continue to meet with his psychiatrist and therapist as needed.
Milford, Connecticut – April 25, 2014: 16-year-old Chris Plaskon stabbed Maren Sanchez, also 16, to death in a stairwell at Jonathan Law High School after she turned down his prom invitation. According to classmates and a former close friend, Chris was taking drugs for ADHD.
Sparks, Nevada – October 21, 2013: 12-year-old Jose Reyes opened fire at Sparks Middle School, killing a teacher and wounding two classmates before committing suicide. The investigation revealed that he had been seeing a psychiatrist and had a generic version of Prozac (fluoxetine) in his system at the time of death.
St. Louis, Missouri – January 15, 2013: 34-year-old Sean Johnson walked onto the Stevens Institute of Business & Arts campus and shot the school’s financial aid director once in the chest, then shot himself in the torso. Johnson had been taking prescribed drugs for an undisclosed mental illness.
Snohomish County, Washington – October 24, 2011: A 15-year-old girl went to Snohomish High School where police alleged that she stabbed a girl as many as 25 times just before the start of school, and then stabbed another girl who tried to help her injured friend. Prior to the attack the girl had been taking “medication” and seeing a psychiatrist. Court documents said the girl was being treated for depression.
Planoise, France – December 13, 2010: A 17-year-old youth held twenty pre-school children and their teacher hostage for hours at Charles Fourier preschool. The teen was reported to be on “medication for depression”. He took a classroom hostage with two swords. Eventually, all the children and the teacher were released safely.
Myrtle Beach, South Carolina – September 21, 2011: 14-year-old Christian Helms had two pipe bombs in his backpack, when he shot and wounded Socastee High School’s “resource” (police) officer. However the officer was able to stop the student before he could do anything further. Helms had been taking drugs for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and depression.
Huntsville, Alabama – February 5, 2010: 15-year-old Hammad Memon shot and killed another Discover Middle School student Todd Brown. Memon had a history for being treated for ADHD and depression. He was taking the antidepressant Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.” He had been seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist.
Kauhajoki, Finland – September 23, 2008: 22-year-old culinary student Matti Saari shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine. He was also seeing a psychologist.
Fresno, California – April 24, 2008: 17-year-old Jesus “Jesse” Carrizales attacked the Fresno high school’s officer, hitting him in the head with a baseball bat. After knocking the officer down, the officer shot Carrizales in self-defense, killing him. Carrizales had been prescribed Lexapro and Geodon, and his autopsy showed that he had a high dose of the antidepressant Lexapro in his blood that could have caused him to be paranoid, according to the coroner.
DeKalb, Illinois – February 14, 2008: 27-year-old Steven Kazmierczak shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amount of Xanax in his system. He had been seeing a psychiatrist.
Jokela, Finland – November 7, 2007: 18-year-old Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School in southern Finland, then committed suicide.
Texas – November 7, 2007: 17-year-old Felicia McMillan returned to her former Robert E. Lee High School campus and stabbed a male student and wounded the principle with a knife. McMillan had been on drugs for depression, and had just taken them the night before the incident.
Cleveland, Ohio – October 10, 2007: 14-year-old Asa Coon stormed through his school with a gun in each hand, shooting and wounding four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon had been placed on the antidepressant Trazodone.
Sudbury, Massachusetts – January 19, 2007: 16-year-old John Odgren stabbed another student with a large kitchen knife in a boy’s bathroom at Lincoln-Sudbury Regional High School. In court his father testified that Odgren was prescribed the drug Ritalin.
North Vernon, Indiana – December 4, 2006: 16-year-old Travis Roberson stabbed another Jennings County High School student in the neck, nearly severing an artery. Roberson was in withdrawal from Wellbutrin, which he had stopped taking days before the attack.
Hillsborough, North Carolina – August 30, 2006: 19-year-old Alvaro Rafael Castillo shot and killed his father, then drove to Orange High School where he opened fire. Two students were injured in the shooting, which ended when school personnel tackled him. His mother said he was on drugs for depression.
Chapel Hill, North Carolina – April 2006: 17-year-old William Barrett Foster took a shotgun to school and took a teacher and a fellow student hostage at East Chapel Hill High School. After being talked out of shooting the hostages, Foster fired two shots through a classroom window before fleeing the school on foot. Foster’s father testified that his son had stopped taking his antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs without telling him.
Red Lake, Minnesota – March 21, 2005: 16-year-old Jeff Weise, on Prozac, shot and killed his grandparents, then went to his school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation where he shot dead 5 students, a security guard, and a teacher, and wounded 7 before killing himself.
Greenbush, New York – February 2004: 16-year-old Jon Romano strolled into his high school in east Greenbush and opened fire with a shotgun. Special education teacher Michael Bennett was hit in the leg. Romano had been taking “medication for depression”. He had previously seen a psychiatrist.
Red Lion, Pennsylvania – February 2, 2001: 56-year-old William Michael Stankewicz entered North Hopewell-Winterstown Elementary School with a machete, leaving three adults and 11 children injured. Stankewicz was taking four different drugs for depression and anxiety weeks before the attacks.
Ikeda, Japan – June 8, 2001: 37-year-old Mamoru Takuma, wielding a 6-inch knife, slipped into an elementary school and stabbed eight first- and second-graders to death while wounding at least 15 other pupils and teachers. He then turned the knife on himself but suffered only superficial wounds. He later told interrogators that before the attack he had taken 10 times his normal dose of antidepressants.
Wahluke, Washington – April 10, 2001: Sixteen-year-old Cory Baadsgaard took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates and a teacher hostage. He had been taking the antidepressant Effexor.
El Cajon, California – March 22, 2001: 18-year-old Jason Hoffman, on the antidepressants Celexa and Effexor, opened fire on his classmates, wounding three students and two teachers at Granite Hills High School. He had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.
Williamsport, Pennsylvania – March 7, 2001: 14-year-old Elizabeth Bush was taking the antidepressant Prozac when she shot at fellow students, wounding one.
Oxnard, California – January 2001: 17-year-old Richard Lopez went to Hueneme High School with a gun and shot twice at a car in the school’s parking lot before taking a female student hostage. Lopez was eventually killed by a SWAT officer. He had been prescribed Prozac, Paxil and “drugs that helped him go to sleep.”
Conyers, Georgia – May 20, 1999: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with the stimulant Ritalin when he opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.
Columbine, Colorado – April 20, 1999: 18-year-old Eric Harris and his accomplice, Dylan Klebold, killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 26 others before killing themselves. Harris was on the antidepressant Luvox. Klebold’s medical records remain sealed. Both shooters had been in anger-management classes and had undergone counseling. Harris had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.
Notus, Idaho – April 16, 1999: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun rounds in his school, narrowly missing students. He was taking a prescribed antidepressant and Ritalin.
Springfield, Oregon – May 21, 1998: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 25. Kinkel had been taking the antidepressant Prozac. Kinkel had been attending “anger control classes” and was under the care of a psychologist.
Blackville, South Carolina – October 12, 1995: 15-year-old Toby R. Sincino slipped into the Blackville-Hilda High School’s rear entrance, where he shot two Blackville-Hilda High School teachers, killing one. Then Toby killed himself moments later. His aunt, Carolyn McCreary, said he had been undergoing counseling with the Department of Mental Health and was taking Zoloft for emotional problems.
Chelsea, Michigan – December 17, 1993: 39-year-old chemistry teacher Stephen Leith, facing a disciplinary matter at Chelsea High School, shot Superintendent Joseph Piasecki to death, shot Principal Ron Mead in the leg, and slightly wounded journalism teacher Phil Jones. Leith was taking Prozac and had been seeing a psychiatrist.
Houston, Texas – September 18, 1992: 44-year-old Calvin Charles Bell, reportedly upset about his second-grader’s progress report, appeared in the principal’s office of Piney Point Elementary School. Bell fired a gun in the school, and eventually wounded two officers before surrendering. Relatives told police on Friday that Bell was an unemployed Vietnam veteran and had been taking anti-depressants.
Winnetka, Illinois – 20 May 1988: 30-year-old Laurie Wasserman Dann walked into a second grade classroom at Hubbard Woods School in Winnetka, Illinois carrying three pistols and began shooting children, killing an eight-year-old boy, and wounding five others before fleeing. She entered a nearby house where she shot and wounded a 20-year-old man before killing herself. Dann had been seeing a psychiatrist and subsequent blood tests revealed that at the time of the killings, she was taking the antidepressant Anafranil.
18 additional murders and murder-suicides, resulting in 76 dead and 61 wounded:
Santa Barbara, California – May 23, 2014: 22-year-old Elliot Rodger stabbed his two roommates at the apartment he shared with them, along with a third person who was visiting. He then drove to a University of California at Santa Barbara (UCSB) sorority house where he shot three women, killing two of them. Driving again, he exchanged fire with deputies, hit a bicyclist, fired on other people in multiple locations and then killed himself. In all he killed 6 and wounded 13 others before taking his own life. He explained in his manifesto that he had psychiatric drugs and made them part of his plan in ending his own life. On page 133 of the manifesto, Rodgers explains that he’ll shoot himself in the head and “I will quickly swallow all of the Xanax and Vicodin pills I have left….” He explains that if the bullets don’t kill him, the mixture of pills will.
Fort Hood, Texas – April 2, 2014: Specialist Ivan Lopez opened fire at Fort Hood military base, killing three people and wounding 16 others before taking his own life. He had been prescribed Ambien, antidepressants and other medications to treat anxiety and depression and had also been examined by a psychiatrist within the month prior and was being evaluated for PTSD.
Washington, DC – September 17, 2013: Aaron Alexis, a Navy contractor, opened fire inside a building at the Washington Navy Yard, killing 12 and wounding eight others before he was killed by police. Alexis had received prescriptions from two Veterans Administration hospitals in August 2013 for the antidepressant Trazodone.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania – March 8, 2012: 30-year-old John Shick, former patient of University of Pittsburgh Medical Center (UPMC) and former student at nearby Duquesne University, shot and killed one and injured six inside UPMC’s Western Psychiatrist Institute. Nine antidepressants were identified among the drugs police found in Shick’s apartment.
Seal Beach, California – October 12, 2011: Scott DeKraai, a harbor tugboat worker, entered the hair salon where his ex-wife worked, killing her and seven others and injuring one. At DeKraai’s initial hearing, his attorney indicated to the judge that DeKraai was prescribed the antidepressant Trazodone and the “mood stabilizer” Topamax.
Afghanistan – October 17, 2010: Indiana soldier David Lawrence was taking the two antidepressants – Trazodone and Zoloft – when he killed a top Taliban commander by shooting him in the face in a prison cell. During questioning, David said he imagined all the people he knew being blown up and blacked out before the shooting.
Newport, Maine – October 26, 2009: Perley Goodrich Jr. beat his mother and then shot his father dead shortly after being injected with Trazodone in a psychiatric hospital. Goodrich had complained that he didn’t want to take the medication because it made him feel “violent.”
Lakeland, Florida – May 3, 2009: Toxicology test results showed that 34-year-old Troy Bellar was on Tegretol, a drug prescribed for “bi-polar disorder,” when he shot and killed his wife and two of his three children in their home before killing himself.
Granberry Crossing, Alabama – April 26, 2009: 53-year-old Fred B. Davis shot and killed a police officer and wounded a sheriff’s deputy who had responded to a call that Davis had threatened a neighbor with a gun. Prescription drug bottles found at the scene showed that Davis was prescribed the antipsychotic drug Geodon.
Middletown, Maryland – April 17, 2009: Christopher Wood shot and killed his wife, three small children and himself inside their home. Toxicology test results verified that Wood had been taking the antidepressants Cymbalta and Paxil and the anti-anxiety drugs BuSpar and Xanax.
Concord, California – January 11, 2009: Jason Montes, 33, shot and killed his wife and then himself at home. Montes had earlier begun taking the antidepressant Prozac for depression related to his impending divorce and a recent bankruptcy.
Little Rock, Arkansas – August 14, 2008: Less than 48 hours after Timothy Johnson shot and killed Arkansas Democratic Party Chairman Bill Gwatney, the Little Rock Police declared they were investigating shooter’s use of the antidepressant Effexor, which was found in Johnson’s house. A Little Rock city police report later stated that Johnson “was on an antidepressant and that the drug may have played a part in his ‘irrational and violent behavior.’”
Omaha, Nebraska – December 5, 2007: 19-year-old Robert Hawkins killed eight people and wounded five before committing suicide in an Omaha mall. Autopsy results confirmed he was under the influence of the “anti-anxiety” drug Valium.
Fallujah, Iraq – December 31, 2006: Marine Lance Cpl. Delano Holmes killed Iraqi soldier Mutather Jasem Muhammed Hassin by stabbing him 40 times with a combat knife, with some of the wounds piercing his spine. Holmes had been prescribed Trazodone (an antidepressant), Ambien and Valium (both anti-anxiety drugs).
North Meridian, Florida – July 8, 2003: Doug Williams killed five and wounded nine of his fellow Lockheed Martin employees before killing himself. Williams was reportedly taking two antidepressants, Zoloft and Celexa, for depression after a failed marriage.
Wakefield, Massachusetts – December 26, 2000: 42-year-old computer technician Michael McDermott had been taking three antidepressants when he hunted down employees in the accounting and human resources offices where he worked, killing seven.
Buffalo, New York – May 1, 1998: 37-year-old Juan Roman, an Erie County sheriff’s deputy, pursued his estranged wife into their children’s elementary school and shot her dead, and a school aide was hit in the elbow. Roman was taking antidepressants and seeing a psychiatrist.
St. Petersburg, FL – May 25, 1992: 30-year-old David Doyle Rittenhouse shot and killed a man that went on a date with his wife. Rittenhouse said he was taking a drug somewhat similar to the controversial drug Prozac, and that the drug impeded his perception abilities and he thought the man had raped his wife, though he said “He knows it didn’t happen that way – but he said that is what was in his mind.”
As far back as 1991, CCHR, along with numerous experts brought evidence before the US FDA that antidepressants were causing suicide and violence. The heavily Pharma-funded FDA panel ignored the evidence provided, and it would take 14 years, and a great deal of public pressure, for the FDA to finally issue it’s strongest warning, the black box, on antidepressants inducing suicidal ideation.
Twenty-one years later, the FDA has yet to issue a black box warning on antidepressants and other classes of psychiatric drugs documented by international regulatory agencies and studies to cause violence. This is not in the public’s interest, who deserve to be warned, it’s in Big Phama’s interest, upon whose funding the FDA heavily relies on.
The drugs actually can be the primary cause. Simply because they are not the proper ones for the ailment. You can take an Average Joe or Jill having trouble sleeping, having mild depression, having mild anxiety, want to stop smoking, and they through an adverse reaction caused by the medications triggering a digestive chemical migration from stomach to the brain and it have the same effect in their brain as LSD. I saw it happen to a person I knew very well and not one doctor in six could diagnose it.
Now granted the onset of what I'm speaking of is usually fairly fast happening most of the time over a period of hours or a few days. Look up Serotonin Syndrome. It involves antidepressants usually ones which can be prescribed to help loose weight, stop smoking, treat anxiety or depression etc.
Many symptoms of what people call mental disorders such as Anxiety and Depression very often aren't and have a neurological or physical ailment causing it and it doesn't get diagnosed but instead gets treated with an improper medication for that ailment.
An example I know first hand is Inner Ear {Vestibular and Sensory Processing Disorders} can trigger symptoms anxiety as a secondary condition. Older doctors the older now retired General Practitioners would give the patient a script for Valium or similar to treat the symptoms and treat the underlying cause {the infection or find reason for the damage}. Used to most people knew an Inner Ear infection would about drive someone nuts.
Worse is the fact due to a lot of misinformation and media hyped fear even within the medical community involving medications like Xanax, Valium, Atavian, etc which are far more feared and restricted than Antidepressants being prescribed without second thought. You will not get a Serotonin migration from Benzo's actually they are the protocol antidote treatment to stop Serotonin Syndrome. A Benzo can be given in a doctors office and the patients reaction seen in minutes. Antidepressants take several weeks to reach therapeutic levels in the bloodstream. In those several weeks the doctor may have a 5 minute observation of the patient.
Safe use of antidepressants require the doctor, patient, and patients family, ALL understanding the symptoms of adverse reactions so they can be stopped fast. Many antidepressants are in the bloodstream for weeks instead of hours. Thus the triggered adverse reaction may go on for a week or more. Something as simple as taking Zoloft and then a few months later catching a cold and taking an OTC cold medication can trigger this also. This isn't Tin Foil junk science it's been proven many times.
I am diagnosed with General Anxiety Disorder. At about 8 they said I had ADD ADHD. I'm 57 now BTW. I've had G.A.D. over 20 years. My sensory auditory and partially my optical processing system is shot. Initially I went on Xanax 2MG twice a day 21 years ago. Then the doctor decided Xanax was too dangerous and started me on antidepressants instead. Then the symptoms got worse as did my mental state in general. That went on for two years. I had headaches, stomach issues, anxiety increased as did sensitivities to triggers to my anxiety such as noises. All were early warnings that the Serotonin in my body was becoming off balanced. I didn't know that then though.
I finally did some research and found out that Anxiety Disorders, Depression, and even the ADD ADHD symptoms I had dealt with since early childhood was caused due to Vestibular Damage. Vestibular is Inner Ear Cerebellar/Vestibular which is where the Inner Ear and portion of the brain responsible for interpretation of the Inner Ear is damaged often due to ear infections allergies etc. Finally a doctor who knew what he was seeing and treating put me on a half a mg of Xanax four times a day. Something the so called experts warn can not work long term. While it's not a cure it allows me to function somewhat like do the shopping etc. I'm a risk to no one LOL. I'm a 20 year user of it and will be a life long user of it. So what I am saying is you can not treat this disorder with protocol antidepressants as it can produce and/or trigger psychotic symptoms mistaken for mental illness.
More to the point I saw my wife develop Serotonin Syndrome from taking Zoloft and Trazodone prescribed by a Shrink. She had PTSD, clinical depression, and anxiety, as well as severe neurological damage resulting in her quadriplegia. Yeah one would expect her to have some depression and anxiety right? Her character changed literally in hours out of the blue several months into using antidepressants. The doctors were so darn certain she was psychotic from severe mental illness that they didn't bother with doing a basic PDR search of her medications for known adverse reactions. They didn't do it but I did. It nearly killed her. I showed the attending doctor {not our primary care doctor who wasn't allowed to treat her or have any say due to hospital privileges rules} the alert article. His prompt response was that's all pure rubbish. He saw the title and didn't read the article. I told him to read the authors name and position to me and then read the article. It was the Pharmacology Professor at the university hospital he worked for. He backed down fast. The MRI told the rest of the story.
Serotonin belongs mainly in the stomach and promotes digestion. When it migrates into the brain it is a very potent chemical that can induce psychotic symptoms the person most likely is unaware of. Why? Because they are hallucinating.
On one end of the spectrum there are antidepressants being passed out without proper education to patients and families because most doctors never see the adverse reaction. On the other end of the spectrum you have patients that by the nature of their very real mental illness do not take their medications.
It is past time we and the courts hold the psychiatrists and the drug companies accountable for each of these instances. Psychiatrists to prison as an accessory. Drug companies CEO’s etc to prison for marketing the drugs that induce these killings. FDA hierarchy to prison for letting these drugs be on the market.
And all hat is just for starters!
Your story is interesting and gives much to consider. You seem to suggest that doctors now look for a pharmaceutical remedy for every ailment and that the drug is often worse than the original disease, both of which assertions I agree with. Especially when it comes to children.
My wife was living in her final days of life a couple months ago. I'd step out of ICU for a walk in the hospital halls every few hours. Several nights around 8:00-9:00pm when I was down in the lobby I saw our doctor fixing to leave for the day. Oh and he would be there next morning at 6:00am to do his morning rounds before seeing patients in his office. He was not one of the doctors in what happened. The Serotonin Syndrome happened 12 years ago under other doctors. I would hate to have his work load and hours. It would take a dedication above and beyond IMO.
There is a problem of doctors keeping up with changed discoveries from new research especially in supposed mental health related issues. ADHD ADD was around when I was a kid in the 1960's. I was one of the very few diagnosed as having it in my school. I didn't discover until about 1996 that I didn't have it at all. I have C.A.P.D. aka Central Auditory Processing Disorders. The symptoms mimic ADD ADHD but you can not treat a CAPD patient with ADD ADHD medications. CAPD is life long and is usually auditory and often optical processing damage. Thus a lack of concentration and some cognitive issues such as Anxiety and even Dyslexic symptoms.
The medication treatment for CAPD? Usually treating the primary cause such as chronic ear infections, sinus allergies, chronic tonsil inflammations etc. Ritalin is of no use. An antihistamine works much better.
Inner Ear disorders is most likely the number one culprit in adult anxiety disorders and the most misdiagnosed as being something else. They can be temporary or permanent. In my case the worse case scenario of damage took place as I grew older. The damage reached a point to where I began having Myoclonic Seizures /jerks/spasms/ in my upper torso at about age 36 when hearing certain sounds or experiencing certain auditory stimulation. I've been disabled since 1994.
Xanax controls the seizure for me and tones down my senses to a functional level. Over time learned some tricks to coping with it. Many go against the so called text book treatment. For example I avoid what triggers me if possible or limit exposure and it works. Now can you imagine what medications enhancing the neuro transmitters to my damaged processor would do? Like demanding a 64 MB RAM 1200MHZ processor to the same simultaneous functions of a 4GB 4MHZ processor. A crash will happen. Crash meaning seizures possibly, the dreaded brain fog where am I and how did I get here experience many with anxiety disorder complain about. Now both processors I mention can do the task given them with the same end result but one can not handle the task bombardment if you understand what I'm saying. Plus the potential for a Serotonin Migration would be there.
This is newer research. It's came from Vestibular Disorders research not mental health research. As such it has less pharmaceutical industry bias. Audiologist to not prescribe pills.
If I had a kid showing ADD ADHD symptoms I would take them to an Audiologist and a Speech Pathologist for CAPD Testing. I would also see an Occupational Therapist for eye coordination testing. I would if necessary give them a No DOZ caffeine pill as well when their behavior became ADD ADHD like and see if it changed their behavior for the better. If it does then ADD ADHD is more likely if not then CAPD is more likely especially if the childs medical history points toward damaging things like I mentioned.
The ADD ADHD epidemic is more likely a CAPD epidemic caused simply by an increase in technology placing much greater auditory and optical demands on persons damaged sensory processing system which in previous generations simply was not there and thus less symptoms showed up.
The classroom adaption is simple. Place the kid at the front of the room facing the teacher so the kid can read lips as well as hear. They have to be able to do both to understand what is being said in a classroom. Eliminate as many distractions as possible such as the group table classrooms we see today. Limit time at home on video games and TV shows where for example the cartoons are almost strobing. Learn a kids attention span and work within it rather than trying to fight it. When it is up have them doing something else productive or recreational but educational. Look at the childs shoes. See if they wear to one side and wear out fast say in less than a month or two due to breaking over. That points to eye/muscle coordination and the kid is waking off balance. I spent two years in Occupational Therapy in 7th and 8th grade. Watch the kid swing at a baseball. If consistent delayed swing, early swing, or ducking away from the ball is an issue after a few days I would say hey OK there again is an eye to muscle coordination issue. Simple things really.
I was in a special education school for two years of my grade school and got help. It bought me a few years time including a Navy enlistment and working till about age 36. I had classmates with every thing you could likely name including severe mental problems for a few. Many more were partially deaf, partially blind, Polio, CP, MD, you name it. One school of about 250 students served a six county area and all kids got help. A decade later Mainstreaming began to put kids who could be helped into a venue of daycare.
Getting back to medications you go up to a Shrink and say hey I think my anxiety is caused by my hearing and he likely will ignore you and go the antidepressant protocol for chemical and phobic causes. He likely never even heard of it because most Shrinks are still using 1950's research. The only change for their practice is newer medications.
Nope. But your need to poison the well tells us about your confidence in your facts. So now that we both agree you’re wrong you discussion over.
One in five children in America are administered psychiatric drugs. In some cases, children as young as three are on Ritalin. These are facts. Take a look at the work of Dr. Laurence Wilson in this area and the extensive bibliography he offers if you’re interested in learning more about the link of psychiatrics to horrific violence. Government public schools receive more money for cases of ADHD. Diagnosed cases of ADHD have soared geometrically. How surprising. The FDA is a federal bureaucracy. Like the IRS, the FDA isn’t politicized. lol Pharmaceutical companies comprise the top contributors to influential members of Congress, their parties, and theit PACs. Another big surprise. The schools, the pill makers, and the pill pushers are raking in enormous sums from this racket.
As I already pointed out these are VASTLY different drugs than the anti-psychotics the guys in your list were on. Prescribed to a different type of person, for a different type of fix, to a different type of problem. You’re in apples and chickens land if your rant against anti-psychotics turns into a rant against ritalin.
It is ethically and medically reprehensible to pump psychiatric medicaments into millions of young American, children who are just being children, without apparent concern for what this may be doing to their development of body and mind. Apparently, this does not bother you. I can only assume you have a vested interest in the statis quo.
ed status quo
Again, apples and chicken. That has NOTHING to do with why spree killers are on anti-psychotics.
I never said it didn’t bother me. I pointed out it’s not part of this discussion. You might as well bring up the weather, it’s a completely separate topic.
If you won’t discuss the actual issue be a man and admit you’re wrong.
Surely, you jest, So far you have not made your case or, indeed, any case. I see no facts or attributions to back what you say. I’ve offered further resources on this subject in our discussion. For example, Dr. Laurence Wilson and his extensive bibliography.
Actually I did make my case. We expect the people on anti-psychotic medication to be insane, therefore when they do insane things it shouldn’t be a surprise or blamed on the medication. Anybody that knows anything about psychiatric medication knows finding the right dosage and the right combination is a drawn out process, it often lasts their entire life. This is because you’re trying to fight genetic tendencies with chemical which is upstream swimming at the best of times, and they’ve learned the body fights back. Some people’s biochemistry just really wants to be jacked up. Then you have the natural human tendency of deciding they feel better so they stop taking their medicine. You see this most with anti-biotics but it’s just as true with psychiatric meds. So yes some people under treatment will still go out of control, which doesn’t mean the treatment is invalid, it just means that some people will always find a crack to slip through.
Meanwhile, none of that has anything to do with ADHD and ritalin.
Obviously, you are in this business, and I stress business. This is a pill pushing racket. If you’re prescribing psychotropic drugs to children who are just being children, beware the legal consequences down the road. It could come back to bite you.
Already said no. But of course when the facts and logic don’t back you that leaves only fallacies. So you try to poison the well, effectively admitting you don’t know anything about the subject.
Have a nice day sometime.
I asked if you were in the pharmaceutical industry. The pill pushing business is bigger than that.
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